Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-19 Thread Joe Flowers
Michael, I apologize for the perceived or real hostilityPeople have told me of that implementation before, which that implemenation is perfectly fine with me. More power to them, best wishes, and all the best. Let's put some added value into NetMail which I think is a great product and help

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Parker
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 01:16:39AM -0500, Joe Flowers wrote: > I know of that implemenation. And, I'm sure there are pluses and minus > to both implementations. > > I've already tested my replacement spamd on SA 3.02 and it works the > same with no problems found. > I know there are a deprecated

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-19 Thread Joe Flowers
I know of that implemenation. And, I'm sure there are pluses and minus to both implementations. I've already tested my replacement spamd on SA 3.02 and it works the same with no problems found. I know there are a deprecated call or two (get_hits for example) but I see no reason that the new cal

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-19 Thread Michael Parker
On Sat, Feb 19, 2005 at 12:55:24AM -0500, Joe Flowers wrote: > I'll try to keep it as short as possible. > > By my preference and from hearing continuing horror stories about spamd, > I have a C program in the place of spamd. It makes calls to Perl - Perl > is "embedded" in the C program. The C

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-19 Thread Joe Flowers
I'll try to keep it as short as possible. By my preference and from hearing continuing horror stories about spamd, I have a C program in the place of spamd. It makes calls to Perl - Perl is "embedded" in the C program. The C spamd replacement talks to a C program running on our NetWare NetMail (

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-18 Thread Joe Emenaker
Joe Flowers wrote: Very preliminary results are no less than AWESOME. So... how are you implementing the "drifting" spam threshold? - Joe smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-18 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -1.44 to -0.5? That's very low! you must be using a lot of Bayes... - --j. Joe Flowers writes: > Very preliminary results are no less than AWESOME. I'm seeing and people > are reporting much higher rates of Spam being caught with no *reports*

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-18 Thread Joe Flowers
Very preliminary results are no less than AWESOME. I'm seeing and people are reporting much higher rates of Spam being caught with no *reports* of an increase in false-positives. We'll see if that continues; the proofs in the pudding. No sign of the dividing line drifting into a wall yet. It se

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Kevin Peuhkurinen
Hey Joe. My 2.64 install is running so well, I almost don't want to upgrade to 3.0.2, and I really don't need to spend too much time on it to keep it that way. Perhaps you just need to devote a couple of days to do some tweaking and thereafter it should run well on its own. Finding out w

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
Joe ahh well thenthe additional rules from www.rulemporium.com (not bigevil.cf) will help alot. as will the URI-RBL extras from www.surbl.org (see http://sourceforge.net/projects/spamcopuri/ for a 2.64 patch to enable this). -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Te

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
Interesting Chris...thanks for the feedback...at least maybe I'm still on the planet somewhere.. My "monthly" word means that I've been feeling too good about myself lately, so I'm due for a slap-down on how dumb I am. J Chr. von Stuckrad wrote: On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:26:43AM -0500, Joe Flo

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
2.64 currently...I'm hoping to move to 3.0x soon...after I see how this experiment goes. It's just a plain-jane out-of-the-box install, nothing special, except maybe I'm doing AWL checks too, which I've seen from the list can cause some headaches from its use or misuse. Although, I have run this

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Wed, Feb 16, 2005 at 08:26:43AM -0500, Joe Flowers wrote: > For us, SA *seems* to score SPAM messages with lower and lower hit > scores as time goes by, and the users get more and more glassy-eyed over > it's ("my" if you prefer) effectiveness as time goes by too. OH, interesting, I think I h

Re: Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Hepworth
Joe what SA version and what extra rules? Using the URI-RBL's? -- Martin Hepworth Snr Systems Administrator Solid State Logic Tel: +44 (0)1865 842300 Joe Flowers wrote: Later today I'll be implementing a "drifting" spam/ham dividing line (one "line" for the entire system - not individually set per

Time for my monthly beating again...

2005-02-16 Thread Joe Flowers
Later today I'll be implementing a "drifting" spam/ham dividing line (one "line" for the entire system - not individually set per email account) to see how effective it is or how effective it appears to be. I'm curious to know if the dividing line will drift into a wall on some self-imposed bou