RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Kurt Buff
Cool. Have to turn up logging to 2, but I'll try it on Monday and see what that brings. Thanks, Kurt -Original Message- From: Bill Landry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 13:30 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org; Kurt Buff Subject: Re: Soliciting advice fro

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Bill Landry
- Original Message - From: "Kurt Buff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > I would love to know how this report was generated. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > Generally speaking, it was was sa-stats.pl found in the tools > > directory of the SA 3.0.1 tarball. > > > > Specifically speaking: > > sa-stats

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Kurt Buff
Matthew said... > On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:02:03 -0500 (EST), JP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Report Title : SpamAssassin - Spam Statistics > > > Report Date : 2004-12-10 > > > Period Beginning : Thu 09 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > > > Period Ending: Fri 10 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > >

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Matthew Romanek
On Fri, 10 Dec 2004 11:02:03 -0500 (EST), JP <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Report Title : SpamAssassin - Spam Statistics > > Report Date : 2004-12-10 > > Period Beginning : Thu 09 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > > Period Ending: Fri 10 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > > > > Reporting Period : 24

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Michael Barnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:31:29PM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > > Hash Busting - slightly modify each copy of message to foil > > > 'fingerprinting' techniques > > > > SpamAssassin does not use message fingerprinting, so this is > > irrelevant.

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: JP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:02 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Soliciting advice from the list members > > >> Report Title : SpamAssassin - Spam Statistics >> Report

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Rob Kudyba
Kris Deugau wrote: Rob Kudyba wrote: Well there is a company that sprouted from Vipul's Razor that uses the concept of collaborative filtering and adaptive learning from over a million trusted users, in a type of-- if you will--"[EMAIL PROTECTED] net"--(ah hem) and I don't believe this 'net is i

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Kris Deugau
Rob Kudyba wrote: > Well there is a company that sprouted from Vipul's Razor that uses > the concept of collaborative filtering and adaptive learning from > over a million trusted users, in a type of-- if you will--"[EMAIL PROTECTED] > net"--(ah hem) and I don't believe this 'net is incorporated in

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread JP
> Report Title : SpamAssassin - Spam Statistics > Report Date : 2004-12-10 > Period Beginning : Thu 09 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > Period Ending: Fri 10 Dec 2004 06:00:00 AM PST > > Reporting Period : 24.00 hrs > -- I would love to know h

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Michael Barnes
On Thu, Dec 09, 2004 at 04:31:29PM -0500, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > Hash Busting - slightly modify each copy of message to foil > > 'fingerprinting' techniques > > SpamAssassin does not use message fingerprinting, so this is > irrelevant. I was under the impression that razor and pyzor were "finger

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Michael Barnes
Adam, I'm sure everyone else that replies may say basically the same as me, but here's my input about SA and your management's questions. > Hash Busting - slightly modify each copy of message to foil > 'fingerprinting' techniques AFAIK, the fingerprinting techinques are "fuzzy" and can withstand

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Matthew Romanek
On Thu, 09 Dec 2004 16:04:28 -0500, Adam Lanier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > My managment has recently asked me how SpamAssassin is prepared to deal > with a number of recent trends in spam technology. This was prompted by > a recent seminar the

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Rob Kudyba
And the key point is that if commercial anti-spam vendors are using points such as these to either differentiate themselves from other commercial efforts or SpamAssassin, they're either: A) Using SpamAssassin underneath B) Inferior to SpamAssassin C) Equivalent functionally to SpamAssassin Jeff C.

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Gary W. Smith
amassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Soliciting advice from the list members > > And the key point is that if commercial anti-spam vendors > are using points such as these to either differentiate > themselves from other commercial efforts or SpamAssassin, > they're either: > >

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, December 9, 2004, 8:28:47 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: >> These are the recent trends raised by my management: >> >> Hash Busting - slightly modify each copy of message to foil >> 'fingerprinting' techniques > Since SA doesn't do fingerprinting this doesn't have quite the desired > effect.

Re: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-10 Thread Loren Wilton
> These are the recent trends raised by my management: > > Hash Busting - slightly modify each copy of message to foil > 'fingerprinting' techniques Since SA doesn't do fingerprinting this doesn't have quite the desired effect. It can break a meta rule looking for particular text, but the quick an

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-09 Thread Bowie Bailey
From: Adam Lanier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > My managment has recently asked me how SpamAssassin is prepared to > deal with a number of recent trends in spam technology. This was > prompted by a recent seminar they attended regarding spam (provided > by an anti-spam vendor who shall remain nam

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-09 Thread Gary W. Smith
Forget education! Let's go straight for punishment... Why bother with the middleman. :) To put a nail in this coffin, we have had great results with SA on how it has been dynamically able to pickup the new SPAM. We tie it in to bayes, awl, SURBL and the plethora of custom rule sets (updated by

RE: Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-09 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Adam Lanier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2004 4:04 PM >To: SA List >Subject: Soliciting advice from the list members > > >-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >Hash: SHA1 > >My managment has rece

Soliciting advice from the list members

2004-12-09 Thread Adam Lanier
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 My managment has recently asked me how SpamAssassin is prepared to deal with a number of recent trends in spam technology. This was prompted by a recent seminar they attended regarding spam (provided by an anti-spam vendor who shall remain nameless). N