Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-18 Thread hamann . w
>> >> Hello Wolfgang! >> >> You forgot to cc your posting to the list. >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> > Hi, >> >=20 >> > common cases that SA recognizes declare auth in the received headers, i= >> =2Ee. per hop >> > (received ... with ESMPTA) >> > Whether X-Authenticated (or any other separat

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Martin von Gagern wrote: Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: So long as the "problem relays" are acting solely as MSAs and never MXes for your mail this patch will solve your problem: http://people.apache.org/~dos/sa-patches/msa_networks.3.1 This patch will solve my problems on receiving such mails from

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-18 Thread Martin von Gagern
Daryl C. W. O'Shea wrote: > So long as the "problem relays" are acting solely as MSAs and never MXes > for your mail this patch will solve your problem: > http://people.apache.org/~dos/sa-patches/msa_networks.3.1 This patch will solve my problems on receiving such mails from other users, and spare

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-18 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Martin von Gagern wrote: To look at it from a different angle, whether or not an X-Authenticated header has any special meaning at all probably depends on the MTAs in the chain, so special knowledge is needed to be sure. And with the same kind of knowledge you'd know that mail.gmx.net is not the

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-18 Thread Martin von Gagern
Hello Wolfgang! You forgot to cc your posting to the list. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > common cases that SA recognizes declare auth in the received headers, i.e. > per hop > (received ... with ESMPTA) > Whether X-Authenticated (or any other separate header) would be useful at all > depe

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-17 Thread Martin von Gagern
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > mails from gmx probably do not indicate in a standard way that mail was > received from an authenticated user. What would be a "standard way"? > but as far as I remember gmx does not put in an auth header at all Looking at any of the growing number of test mails I sent

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-15 Thread hamann . w
Hi Martin, you are not alone, but gmx should solve one part of the problem: mails from gmx probably do not indicate in a standard way that mail was received from an authenticated user. Once SA finds that information, it is supposed to consider the mta (in that case gmx) rather than the original s

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-15 Thread Martin von Gagern
Jay Chandler wrote: > Not entirely sure what you're saying in the last two paragraphs, OK, let me put this in different words, let's be more concrete. As you all can see I have this Mail Address @gmx.net. GMX is my mail provider. They run a server mail.gmx.net for email submission, where I have to

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-13 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
Martin von Gagern wrote: Hello! I've been using SpamAssassin here for some time now, and haven't done much configuration. Procmail calls spamassassin on my Gentoo Linux box, configured without bayes but with network checks. Configure your trusted_networks. http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-13 Thread Jay Chandler
Martin von Gagern wrote: Jason Little wrote: Just fire it through your ISP's mail server. They should be able to relay for you without a problem. Jason Why would things look any different if I use my ISP instead of my IMP (Mail Provider)? I'll check this week, but I'm not conviced y

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-13 Thread Martin von Gagern
Jason Little wrote: > Just fire it through your ISP's mail server. They should be able to relay > for you without a problem. > > Jason Why would things look any different if I use my ISP instead of my IMP (Mail Provider)? I'll check this week, but I'm not conviced yet. And how about those idea

RE: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-13 Thread Jason Little
t: Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam Martin von Gagern wrote: > > Now I realized that mail I send will be marked by such a setup as spam. > There are mostly two rules that hit: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR and > RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL. The latter one only happens some times, I guess >

Re: Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-13 Thread Chris Purves
Martin von Gagern wrote: Now I realized that mail I send will be marked by such a setup as spam. There are mostly two rules that hit: HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR and RCVD_IN_SORBS_DUL. The latter one only happens some times, I guess it's a timeout issue, because it can happen or not for the very same ma

Simple mail from Dynamic IP listed as spam

2006-12-11 Thread Martin von Gagern
Hello! I've been using SpamAssassin here for some time now, and haven't done much configuration. Procmail calls spamassassin on my Gentoo Linux box, configured without bayes but with network checks. Now I realized that mail I send will be marked by such a setup as spam. There are mostly two rules