Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-20 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
Jason Bertoch escreveu: It's my opinion that if an administrator misconfigured his SPF record, or a number of other things on their side, it is their fault that mail cannot be delivered. In the case of SPF_FAIL, they have explicitly told us they don't want mail to come from a server not l

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Steve Prior
Jason Bertoch wrote: It's my opinion that if an administrator misconfigured his SPF record, or a number of other things on their side, it is their fault that mail cannot be delivered. In the case of SPF_FAIL, they have explicitly told us they don't want mail to come from a server not listed in

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread mouss
Jason Bertoch a écrit : > > It's my opinion that if an administrator misconfigured his SPF record, or a > number of other things on their side, it is their fault that mail cannot be > delivered. In the case of SPF_FAIL, they have explicitly told us they don't > want mail to come from a server no

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
Jason Bertoch wrote: >>>Which case is there a record, but the sending server IP >>>doesn't match? > > >>That depends what the sender's SPF record is set for in >>the "all" clause. > > >>If it's ?all you get SPF_NEUTRAL >>If it's ~all you get SPF_SOFTFAIL >>if it's -all you get SPF_FAIL. > >

RE: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Jason Bertoch
> I have seen SEVERAL domains with misconfigured SPF > values. So, getting SPF_FAILs near required_score would, > for sure, block some messages coming from misconfigured > SPF domains which also matches some other rules. False > positives, I dont like that. Anyway, i have raised my > SPF_FAILs s

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
Jason Bertoch escreveu: That makes sense but now the scores for these rules have me a little confused. If a domain administrator indicates that we should fail any message not sourced from his IP's, why is the score for SPF_FAIL the smallest of the three? Shouldn't it be set at or near the

RE: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Jason Bertoch
>> Which case is there a record, but the sending server IP >> doesn't match? > That depends what the sender's SPF record is set for in > the "all" clause. > If it's ?all you get SPF_NEUTRAL > If it's ~all you get SPF_SOFTFAIL > if it's -all you get SPF_FAIL. That makes sense but now the scor

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Leonardo Rodrigues Magalhães
Jason Bertoch escreveu: Can someone point me in the right direction on exactly what the difference between the following SPF tests are, please? I assume that SPF_PASS means the sending domain has an SPF record and the sending server IP matches. However, the description for SPF_FAIL, SPF_

Re: SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Matt Kettler
Jason Bertoch wrote: > Can someone point me in the right direction on exactly what the difference > between the following SPF tests are, please? I assume that SPF_PASS means the > sending domain has an SPF record and the sending server IP matches. However, > the description for SPF_FAIL, SPF_SOFT

SPF test clarification

2006-01-19 Thread Jason Bertoch
Can someone point me in the right direction on exactly what the difference between the following SPF tests are, please? I assume that SPF_PASS means the sending domain has an SPF record and the sending server IP matches. However, the description for SPF_FAIL, SPF_SOFTFAIL, and SPF_NEUTRAL are al