Re: procmail

2014-10-29 Thread Derek Diget
On Oct 28, 2014 at 22:10 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: =>On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 01:31:51 +0100 =>Reindl Harald wrote: => =>> frankly in times of LMTP and Sieve there is hardly a need to use =>> procmail - it is used because "i know it and it just works" - so why =>> should somebody step in and main

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2014-10-28 at 22:10 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > > frankly in times of LMTP and Sieve there is hardly a need to use > > procmail - it is used because "i know it and it just works" - so why > > should somebody step in and maintain it while nobody is forced to use > > it > > I use Email:

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 10/28/2014 7:10 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 01:31:51 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: frankly in times of LMTP and Sieve there is hardly a need to use procmail - it is used because "i know it and it just works" - so why should somebody step in and maintain it while nobody is f

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 01:31:51 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > frankly in times of LMTP and Sieve there is hardly a need to use > procmail - it is used because "i know it and it just works" - so why > should somebody step in and maintain it while nobody is forced to use > it I use Email::Filter, no

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.10.2014 um 01:39 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: On 10/28/2014 5:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 29.10.2014 um 01:23 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: I think that one of the things that up and coming Linux admins are supposed to do is write a "Procmail is dead" article and post it somewhere. It s

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
On 10/28/2014 5:31 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 29.10.2014 um 01:23 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: I think that one of the things that up and coming Linux admins are supposed to do is write a "Procmail is dead" article and post it somewhere. It sure seems like it there's enough of them out there.

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 29.10.2014 um 01:23 schrieb Ted Mittelstaedt: I think that one of the things that up and coming Linux admins are supposed to do is write a "Procmail is dead" article and post it somewhere. It sure seems like it there's enough of them out there. Procmail isn't dead. However, the Procmail w

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
I think that one of the things that up and coming Linux admins are supposed to do is write a "Procmail is dead" article and post it somewhere. It sure seems like it there's enough of them out there. Procmail isn't dead. However, the Procmail website is simply in an awful and atrocious state. I

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-28 Thread Derek Diget
On Oct 28, 2014 at 07:40 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: =>On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 23:50:20 -0700 =>Ian Zimmerman wrote: => =>> Or you could run dovecot and its sieve plugin. Sieve is a real =>> standard (RFC 5228) which procmail never was. => =>It may be a standard, but it's nowhere near as flexible a

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 11:43:04 -0700 jdow wrote: jdow> That is hardly a compelling reason to change from procmail to jdow> perl, for me or others with working procmail systems. You seem to jdow> be advocating handing me perl and turning me loose after ripping jdow> procmail out of my hands. That do

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread jdow
On 2014-10-28 11:24, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:24:37 -0700 jdow wrote: Sure, but that doesn't mean a consummate chef need fear them! Nonetheless one should keep bare knife switches away from said chef lest he forget that being an consummate expert in one field does not ma

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 10:24:37 -0700 jdow wrote: > > Sure, but that doesn't mean a consummate chef need fear them! > Nonetheless one should keep bare knife switches away from said chef > lest he forget that being an consummate expert in one field does not > make him even barely competent in other

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread jdow
On 2014-10-28 06:09, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:28:19 +0100 "Andrzej A. Filip" wrote: It may be a standard, but it's nowhere near as flexible as Perl. I have very unusual filtering requirements (for example, rules that change depending on time-of-day or depending on who has

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 28 Oct 2014 13:28:19 +0100 "Andrzej A. Filip" wrote: > > It may be a standard, but it's nowhere near as flexible as Perl. I > > have very unusual filtering requirements (for example, rules that > > change depending on time-of-day or depending on who has the support > > pager that week) t

Re: procmail

2014-10-28 Thread Andrzej A. Filip
"David F. Skoll" wrote: > On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 23:50:20 -0700 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > >> Or you could run dovecot and its sieve plugin. Sieve is a real standard >> (RFC 5228) which procmail never was. > > It may be a standard, but it's nowhere near as flexible as Perl. I have very > unusual fil

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-28 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 23:50:20 -0700 Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Or you could run dovecot and its sieve plugin. Sieve is a real > standard (RFC 5228) which procmail never was. It may be a standard, but it's nowhere near as flexible as Perl. I have very unusual filtering requirements (for example, rule

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-28 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On Fri, 24 Oct 2014 08:43:41 -0400, "David F. Skoll" wrote: David> Procmail is also unmaintained abandonware, as far as I can tell. David> If you use SpamAssassin, you probably like Perl, so I would David> recommend Email::Filter instead. It's far more flexible than David> procmail and lets you

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-27 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 27.10.2014 um 21:04 schrieb Daniel Staal: > --As of October 27, 2014 8:29:52 PM +0100, Robert Schetterer is alleged > to have said: > >> by the way >> >> http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/34896/ >> >> always have a shellshock patched system these days with postfix/procmail > > --As for the re

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-27 Thread Daniel Staal
--As of October 27, 2014 8:29:52 PM +0100, Robert Schetterer is alleged to have said: by the way http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/34896/ always have a shellshock patched system these days with postfix/procmail --As for the rest, it is mine. Interesting. I dug a bit further out of curios

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-27 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 27.10.2014 um 19:55 schrieb Bob Proulx: > David F. Skoll wrote: >> "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: >>> Procmail has some weird syntax >> >> Procmail is also unmaintained abandonware, as far as I can tell. > > That isn't really a fair assessment of procmail. It is like saying > that 'cp' is unmaintai

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-27 Thread Bob Proulx
David F. Skoll wrote: > "Kevin A. McGrail" wrote: > > Procmail has some weird syntax > > Procmail is also unmaintained abandonware, as far as I can tell. That isn't really a fair assessment of procmail. It is like saying that 'cp' is unmaintained abandonware. The original authors no longer main

Re: procmail (was Re: Spam messages bypassing SA)

2014-10-24 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 10/24/2014 8:43 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: ...I would recommend Email::Filter instead. Definitely will try it out! Thanks.

Re: procmail/spassassin training session

2013-09-15 Thread Harry Putnam
Bart Schaefer writes: > On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: >> >> 1) Does it matter that I have autolearn turned off in spamassassin >> conf filt 'local.cf' while doing my sandbox work > > No, it doesn't. In fact it's probably better that way because SA > won't waste time updat

Re: procmail/spassassin training session

2013-09-15 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > > 1) Does it matter that I have autolearn turned off in spamassassin > conf filt 'local.cf' while doing my sandbox work No, it doesn't. In fact it's probably better that way because SA won't waste time updating the bayes database with the mi

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
2009/4/28 Robert Ober : > It was global and I want it to stay global.  The old procmailrc is: > > DROPPRIVS=yes > > :0fw > | /usr/bin/spamc That's a global config, but you're running it per-user due to the DROPPRIVS line. fyi. > All I want to do now is have all the identified spam(X-Spam-Status:

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009, Robert Ober wrote: All I want to do now is have all the identified spam(X-Spam-Status: Yes ?) go to a global file instead of delivered to the users. The global spam file will be readable by only myself and management. Company owned systems, so no privacy implied nor shou

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Ober
On 4/28/09 3:00 PM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:32 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: It was global and I want it to stay global. The old procmailrc is: DROPPRIVS=yes :0fw | /usr/bin/spamc No .procmailrc for the users. And

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 13:32 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: > On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > >> DROPPRIVS=yes > > > > procmail is being run on behalf of the recipient. > > Makes sense, any way to make sure the log is writeable other that to > put all the users in a group? Ah, ju

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Robert Ober
On 4/28/09 11:34 AM, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: DROPPRIVS=yes procmail is being run on behalf of the recipient. Makes sense, any way to make sure the log is writeable other that to put all the users in a group? LOGFILE=/var/log/procmail.log VERBOSE=yes LOGABSTRACT=all MAILDIR is not

Re: Procmail Setup NOT Working

2009-04-28 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 11:07 -0500, Robert Ober wrote: > filter in Outlook. Problem is that some users are setup to have their > email forwarded to their cellphone/blackberry and the spam is in that > inbox. So I found some articles and decided to have the spam go to a > file. The following i

Re: procmail config remove no spamed mail

2008-07-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 01.07.08 08:48, Philippe Couas wrote: > I have add procmail to my config to avoid most spam, but il delete others > mails too. Do not drop spam below some sane score (8 or 10). Configure spamassassin and teach bayes filter properly. -- Matus UHLAR - fantomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; http://www.fan

Re: Procmail/SA not moving mail into spam folder

2008-01-08 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Michael, Am 2008-01-03 11:53:41, schrieb Michael Bartlett: > Hi all, > > Wonder if you could help me, I'm trying to get my procmailrc to move > all mail marked as spam into another folder - but it doesn't seem to > work. I understand that this could be a procmail problem - but just > wanted

Re: Procmail/SA not moving mail into spam folder

2008-01-04 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-01-03 at 11:53 +, Michael Bartlett wrote: > Wonder if you could help me, I'm trying to get my procmailrc to move > all mail marked as spam into another folder - but it doesn't seem to > work. I understand that this could be a procmail problem - but just > wanted to confirm that may

Re: procmail and virtual domain

2006-11-17 Thread karlp
On Fri, November 17, 2006 10:08 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi list > I have postfix with a virtual domain, where I have to create a .procmailrc > file for procmail? ( I have to create a file or a directory? ) > How to configure a system wide? > Thanks > I recommend searching on the internet f

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 February 2006 19:03, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> On Sunday 19 February 2006 03:45, jdow wrote: >>>From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> >===8<--- >PROCMAILMATCH="X-Procmail: Matched on" >PROCMAILHEADER="X-Procmail: " > >:0 fw >>

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-19 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Sunday 19 February 2006 03:45, jdow wrote: From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===8<--- PROCMAILMATCH="X-Procmail: Matched on" PROCMAILHEADER="X-Procmail: " :0 fw * ^List-Id: .*(spamassassin\.apache.\org) | formail -A "$PROCMAILHEADER an SA

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-19 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 19 February 2006 03:45, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>>===8<--- >>>PROCMAILMATCH="X-Procmail: Matched on" >>>PROCMAILHEADER="X-Procmail: " >>> >>>:0 fw >>> >>>* ^List-Id: .*(spamassassin\.apache.\org) >>> >>>| formail -A "$PROCMAILHEADER an SA list. Mail not pr

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-19 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ===8<--- PROCMAILMATCH="X-Procmail: Matched on" PROCMAILHEADER="X-Procmail: " :0 fw * ^List-Id: .*(spamassassin\.apache.\org) | formail -A "$PROCMAILHEADER an SA list. Mail not processed." | :0 fw * ^TO_:.*([EMAIL PROTECTED]|users\.spamassassin\.apach

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 18 February 2006 20:27, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Greetings, I'm seeing this in the procmail log occasionally >=== >From gene Sat Feb 18 12:32:20 2006 > Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? > Folder: /var/mail/gene >4539 >formail

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-18 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Greetings, I'm seeing this in the procmail log occasionally === From gene Sat Feb 18 12:32:20 2006 Subject: Re: Flames over -- Re: Which is simpler? Folder: /var/mail/gene 4539 formail: Invalid field-name: " SpamAssassin user list" Usage: f

Re: procmail error or mine?

2006-02-18 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 12:39:58PM -0500, Gene Heskett wrote: > formail: Invalid field-name: " SpamAssassin user list" > is this anything to worry about? This isn't really a SpamAssassin question, but it looks like you have an error in your procmail config related to formail. I would definitely l

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-27 Thread .rp
> (Q) Given that this RH machine runs only POP3 (management will not > allow anything else) how do I set up my /etc/procmailrc file such that > all mail that is marked as SPAM is put into the users $HOME/mail/spam > file (they can then login using SSH and use Pine to look at SPAM if $LOGNAME i

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-23 Thread jdow
From: "Loren Wilton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Outlook and Outlook Express will filter on words in the subject, so a > > subject tag will work easily (Tools->Message Rules). I'm not familiar > > enough to know whether you can filter on an arbitrary header, though. > > You can with Outlook using var

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> Outlook and Outlook Express will filter on words in the subject, so a > subject tag will work easily (Tools->Message Rules). I'm not familiar > enough to know whether you can filter on an arbitrary header, though. You can with Outlook using various supremely inobvious but readily available meth

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-22 Thread Kelson
Chris Barnes wrote: This is really the key - from a SA standpoint, the best you can do is mark the message as spam and let the MUA (Outlook) deal with putting things into the proper folders on the user's machine (in the .pst file). I don't know OL well enough, but I suspect that there is likel

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-22 Thread Chris Barnes
Mark Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > (Q) Given that this RH machine runs only POP3 (management will not > allow anything else) This is really the key - from a SA standpoint, the best you can do is mark the message as spam and let the MUA (Outlook) deal with putting things into the proper f

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-22 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 08:15 schrieb jdow: > There generally is no specific procmail log file. It is generally in one > of the mail log files in /var/log/. Yes. But you can create user user specific lof file with LOGFILE=$HOME/.procmail.log Thomas -- icq:133073900 http://www.t-arend.de pg

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread jdow
Never mind - Earthlink had an email stick in its craw or else Fetchmail did not like it at all. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "jdow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 July, 21, Thursday 23:16 Subject: Re: Procmail for site wide usage > You are developing a sev

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread jdow
You are developing a severe stutter. {o.o} - Original Message - From: "Thomas Arend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 2005 July, 21, Thursday 20:40 Subject: Re: Procmail for site wide usage

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread jdow
There generally is no specific procmail log file. It is generally in one of the mail log files in /var/log/. {^_^} - Original Message - From: "Thomas Arend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Freitag, 22. Juli 2005 01:10 schrieb jdow: > From: "Mark Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > On 7/21/05, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +0100: > > > The issue is how I get > > > procmail to put SPAM mail in $HOME/mail/spam for each of t

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread jdow
From: "Mark Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 7/21/05, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +0100: > > > The issue is how I get > > procmail to put SPAM mail in $HOME/mail/spam for each of the users. > > That should be explained in the spamassa

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread jdow
From: "Mark Williams" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > See details: > > On 7/21/05, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:45:30 +0100: > > > > > (Q) Given that this RH machine runs only POP3 (management will not > > > allow anything else) how do I set up my /e

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Williams
On 7/21/05, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +0100:> The issue is how I get> procmail to put SPAM mail in $HOME/mail/spam for each of the users. That should be explained in the spamassassin install readme, I'm sure.Apart from that:http://wiki

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:49:04 +0100: > The issue is how I get > procmail to put SPAM mail in $HOME/mail/spam for each of the users. That should be explained in the spamassassin install readme, I'm sure. Apart from that: http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/FindPage?action=full

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Thomas Arend
Am Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2005 18:49 schrieb Mark Williams: [ .. ] > > Please don't get too hung up on the decisions that have been made - > they are out of my control (hence my not going into depth on them). I > only mentioned it to avoid people saying install this and install that > or install IMA

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Mark Williams
See details: On 7/21/05, Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:45:30 +0100: > > > (Q) Given that this RH machine runs only POP3 (management will not > > allow anything else) how do I set up my /etc/procmailrc file such that > > all mail that is marke

Re: Procmail for site wide usage

2005-07-21 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Mark Williams wrote on Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:45:30 +0100: > (Q) Given that this RH machine runs only POP3 (management will not > allow anything else) how do I set up my /etc/procmailrc file such that > all mail that is marked as SPAM is put into the users $HOME/mail/spam > file (they can then log

Re: procmail: Could not create INET socket on 127.0.0.1:783: Permission denied

2005-07-11 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Hello, > > I set up spamassassin to work with procmail according to instructions. > Here is what is in ~/.procmailrc: > > #SPAM ASSASSIN SECTION > > :0fw: spamd.lock > * < 256000 > | /usr/sbin/spamd ^ The spamd tool is run as

Re: Procmail Recipe Problem

2005-05-26 Thread Andy Jezierski
Jake Colman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 05/25/2005 10:12:08 PM: [snip] > How can I limit the number of sendmails anyway?  My server gets very > overloaded in those circumstances.  In general, what happens if there are > more sendmails than there are spamd processes? > You can try confCONNECTI

Re: Procmail Recipe Problem

2005-05-25 Thread Jake Colman
> "LW" == Loren Wilton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Clearly, some of my emails are skipping SA! LW> Which version were you running, again? This was a known-to-happen LW> 'feature' with the 2.6x series, although nobody ever really figured LW> out why. There are conditions where

Re: Procmail Recipe Problem

2005-05-25 Thread Loren Wilton
> Clearly, some of my emails are skipping SA! Which version were you running, again? This was a known-to-happen 'feature' with the 2.6x series, although nobody ever really figured out why. There are conditions where it can happen on 3.0.1 or .2, I believe, if the spamd children all get themselve

Re: PRocmail recipe problem and spamassassin not filtering correctly

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Ennis
> > These suggestions are basic things for most on this list, but if you are > new to using these tools it will save you some look up and experimenting > time. > > Good Luck!!! > > Greg > One thing I failed to mention is that you must make sure you have enough disk space to save the file. I

Re: PRocmail recipe problem and spamassassin not filtering correctly

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Ennis
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 09:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi all, > > I use spamassassin 2.63 on fedora core 2. > I have two problems : > > 1. Spamassassin does not flag all spam, although muy level is at 3. Sometimes > he > doesn't even have ONE hit on a spam message !!!. > > 2. I want to move t

Re: PRocmail recipe problem and spamassassin not filtering correctly

2004-11-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:53 AM 11/4/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use spamassassin 2.63 on fedora core 2. I have two problems : 1. Spamassassin does not flag all spam, although muy level is at 3. Sometimes he doesn't even have ONE hit on a spam message !!!. You're running a rather old version of SA, one which is