Re: phishing rules

2015-08-26 Thread RW
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:25:30 -0400 Joe Quinn wrote: > On 8/25/2015 7:51 AM, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:55:57 +0200 > > Tom Hendrikx wrote: > > > > > >> Basically every MUA I know will label the message as a possible > >> scam when you use the BAD version, which why you actually never > >

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-25 Thread Joe Quinn
On 8/25/2015 7:51 AM, RW wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:55:57 +0200 Tom Hendrikx wrote: Basically every MUA I know will label the message as a possible scam when you use the BAD version, which why you actually never see it in non-spam mail, unless the editor was a real noob. That applies to sp

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-25 Thread RW
On Tue, 25 Aug 2015 09:55:57 +0200 Tom Hendrikx wrote: > Basically every MUA I know will label the message as a possible scam > when you use the BAD version, which why you actually never see it in > non-spam mail, unless the editor was a real noob. That applies to spam too. Would this really h

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-25 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 24-08-15 18:34, Joseph Brennan wrote: > > Nick Edwards wrote: > >> example >> the displayed version in mail might be www.example.com, but the actual >> URI when you highlight or click on it, is foobar.example.net > > > The most common case is that the text shows the real web page, but the

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-24 Thread Joseph Brennan
Nick Edwards wrote: example the displayed version in mail might be www.example.com, but the actual URI when you highlight or click on it, is foobar.example.net The most common case is that the text shows the real web page, but the link goes to a click counter page that redirects to the rea

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-24 Thread RW
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 13:14:41 +1000 Nick Edwards wrote: > Hey, > > Kind of had enough of regular URIBL's not getting this stuff, so > wondering has anyone wrote any rules they want to share on/off list to > match on mismatched URI links, Are you getting a lot of phishes that still do this? It u

Re: phishing rules

2015-08-23 Thread Benny Pedersen
On August 24, 2015 5:14:53 AM Nick Edwards wrote: ciao Agere, create share deploy, thank you

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-09 Thread Micah Anderson
Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /Dear .{0,12}(web ?mail|columbia\.edu)/i > > /Password.{0,10}\([\s\.\*\_]+\)/ > > /you must reply to this email/i > > Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ I created a meta-rule out of these (with a score of 8), and then ran spamassassin -D < phish to see ho

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-09 Thread Ned Slider
Micah Anderson wrote: Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: /Dear .{0,12}(web ?mail|columbia\.edu)/i /Password.{0,10}\([\s\.\*\_]+\)/ /you must reply to this email/i Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ I'm new at writing custom rules, so I am trying to figure out the best way to do this.

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-09 Thread Micah Anderson
Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > /Dear .{0,12}(web ?mail|columbia\.edu)/i > > /Password.{0,10}\([\s\.\*\_]+\)/ > > /you must reply to this email/i > > Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ I'm new at writing custom rules, so I am trying to figure out the best way to do this. Would it be be

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-09 Thread Micah Anderson
Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> We get some legitimate email from @live.com users. >> >> But they don't set a Reply-to header. That's the test. > > But that wasn't his question; he asked whether any legitimate mail flows > from live.com.

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-03 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, November 3, 2008 12:02, Martin Gregorie wrote: > ^http:.*\.spaces\.live\.com\/$ > in its body but the From: header identifies a completely unrelated > address. Would a rule that tags messages with this From and URI combo be > useful or would it generate too many FPs? http://www.nabble.com

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-03 Thread mouss
Jeff Chan wrote: On Thursday, October 30, 2008, 12:56:53 PM, Micah Anderson wrote: I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by anything I've thrown up in front of them: [...] I've got spamassassin 3.2.5 with URIBL plugin loaded (which I understand pulls in the 25

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-03 Thread mouss
Micah Anderson wrote: * Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-30 17:29-0400]: Micah Anderson wrote: reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, DSBL has shut down, and you should remove the query from your list. It won't help with the phishing, but it'll free up some network resources. In

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-03 Thread Sahil Tandon
Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> We get some legitimate email from @live.com users. > > But they don't set a Reply-to header. That's the test. But that wasn't his question; he asked whether any legitimate mail flows from live.com. That was my answer. :) -- Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PRO

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-03 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2008-11-02 at 22:36 -0500, Micah Anderson wrote: > Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > First pass: > > > > header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 > > > > Maybe scoring 8.0 for

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Joseph Brennan
Sahil Tandon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: We get some legitimate email from @live.com users. But they don't set a Reply-to header. That's the test. Joseph Brennan Lead Email Systems Engineer Columbia University Information Technology

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Sahil Tandon
Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > First pass: > > > > header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > > score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 > > > > Maybe scoring 8.0 for one thing sca

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 11:30 -0400, Micah Anderson wrote: >> Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > Do you mean attempts to get your users to send their passwords, >> > or fake mail pretending to be from banks? >> >> I mean attempts to g

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
SM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > At 07:56 01-11-2008, Micah Anderson wrote: >>Here is an example one I received recently, note the hideously low bayes >>score on this one, caused it to autolearn as ham even, grr. > > [snip] > >>X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSW

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-02 Thread Micah Anderson
Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > First pass: > > header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ > score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 > > Maybe scoring 8.0 for one thing scares you, but I haven't seen this > fp in a couple of months. I

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Byung-Hee HWANG
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Micah Anderson wrote: [...] > Report them where exactly? > > Here is an example one I received recently, note the hideously low bayes > score on this one, caused it to autolearn as ham even, grr. > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Oct 31 20:00:45 2008

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 18:01 -0400, Joseph Brennan wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway, can't you educate your users [...] > > Experience tells me the answer is no, or at least a qualified no. And > we're supposed to have smart people here. > > I suppose the numb

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Anyway, can't you educate your users Experience tells me the answer is no, or at least a qualified no. And we're supposed to have smart people here. I suppose the number of responses might be even higher if we did not try to educate people. I

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sat, 2008-11-01 at 11:30 -0400, Micah Anderson wrote: > Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Do you mean attempts to get your users to send their passwords, > > or fake mail pretending to be from banks? > > I mean attempts to get my users to send their passwords, are these not > call

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I mean attempts to get my users to send their passwords, are these not called phishing? micah Yes, it's phishing, but for thos you might want to make local rules to catch things specific to your own web mail system and domain. I find myself relucta

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
Reply-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] First pass: header LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE Reply-to =~ /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ score LOCAL_REPLYTO_LIVE8.0 Maybe scoring 8.0 for one thing scares you, but I haven't seen this fp in a couple of months. Joseph Brennan Columbia University Information Technolo

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread SM
At 07:56 01-11-2008, Micah Anderson wrote: Here is an example one I received recently, note the hideously low bayes score on this one, caused it to autolearn as ham even, grr. [snip] X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.2.

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Micah Anderson
Brent Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hiya > > See SA examples > > http://wiki.junkemailfilter.com/index.php/Spam_DNS_Lists > > Also add hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com to you DNSBL. Thanks, I'll add this to my local.cf and see how it goes. > Another thing I do find is useful is adding additio

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Micah Anderson
Joseph Brennan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by >> anything I've thrown up in front of them: > > Do you mean attempts to get your users to send their passwords, > or fake mail prete

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Micah Anderson
Karsten Bräckelmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:56 -0400, Micah Anderson wrote: >> I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by >> anything I've thrown up in front of them: >> >> postfix is doing: >> reject_rbl_client b.barracudace

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-11-01 Thread Micah Anderson
Randy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Micah Anderson wrote: >> Sadly, I do not have an example I can share at the moment, as I >> typically delete them in a rage after training my bayes filter on >> them. However, I am looking for any suggestions of other things I can >> turn on... in particular, ar

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-31 Thread Micah Anderson
* Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-31 02:36-0400]: > On Thursday, October 30, 2008, 12:56:53 PM, Micah Anderson wrote: > > > I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by > > anything I've thrown up in front of them: > > [...] > > I've got spamassassin 3.2.5 with

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-31 Thread Micah Anderson
* Kelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2008-10-30 17:29-0400]: > Micah Anderson wrote: >> reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, > > DSBL has shut down, and you should remove the query from your list. It > won't help with the phishing, but it'll free up some network resources. > Info: http://dsbl.

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Brent Clark
Hiya See SA examples http://wiki.junkemailfilter.com/index.php/Spam_DNS_Lists Also add hostkarma.junkemailfilter.com to you DNSBL. Works really well. Another thing I do find is useful is adding additional higher valued MX records. http://www.junkemailfilter.com/spam/support.html HTH Rega

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, October 30, 2008, 12:56:53 PM, Micah Anderson wrote: > I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by > anything I've thrown up in front of them: [...] > I've got spamassassin 3.2.5 with URIBL plugin loaded (which I understand > pulls in the 25_uribl.cf auto

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Joseph Brennan
Micah Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by anything I've thrown up in front of them: Do you mean attempts to get your users to send their passwords, or fake mail pretending to be from banks? Joseph Brennan Lead Email S

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Kelson
Micah Anderson wrote: reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org, DSBL has shut down, and you should remove the query from your list. It won't help with the phishing, but it'll free up some network resources. Info: http://dsbl.org/node/3 I've got clamav pulling signatures updated once

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 15:56 -0400, Micah Anderson wrote: > I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by > anything I've thrown up in front of them: > > postfix is doing: > reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, > reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Bill Landry
Micah Anderson wrote: > I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by > anything I've thrown up in front of them: > > postfix is doing: > reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, > reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, > reject_rbl_client

Re: Phishing rules?

2008-10-30 Thread Randy
Micah Anderson wrote: I keep getting hit by phishing attacks, and they aren't being stopped by anything I've thrown up in front of them: postfix is doing: reject_rbl_client b.barracudacentral.org, reject_rbl_client zen.spamhaus.org, reject_rbl_client lis