Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-18 Thread Jonas Eckerman
Codger wrote: > Regardless of challenge-response or > greylisting, [...], the idea is the same... No, those ideas are very different, both in practice, philosophy and results. One of them is intended as a verification of the sender, the other is intended to differentiate between connections fr

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-18 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sun, 17 Dec 2006, Codger wrote: > Regardless of challenge-response or greylisting, or SMTP response > delay, the idea is the same... legitimate email is passed after a > time delay. My idea was to remove the time delay and in the course > of normal email communications between known and accept

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-17 Thread Codger
Yes, everyone is correct that I called a challenge-response incorrectly as greylisting. Sorry about that. Greylisting on CG Pro however is implemented a little differently... I can adjust the initial SMTP response time so it isn't specific to a user but accomplishes the same thing. Regardle

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-17 Thread John D. Hardin
On Sat, 16 Dec 2006, Codger wrote: > My name is Ron, and I run a mail server. {chorus} Hi, Ron! > At first I suggested that they simply send to their contact lists > a request that they respond to the email (with the private keyword > inserted) without changing it. Now I have suggested they just

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-17 Thread SM
Hi Ron, At 19:09 16-12-2006, Codger wrote: To our users, I've introduced the concept of a private keyword. This keyword is quite unique and will cause the responder's email to get -100 points in the private keyword rule. I've instructed them to put the private keyword in the bottom of their signa

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-17 Thread Bob Proulx
Codger wrote: > I wanted to mention something that I've started doing to help those > of our users who just barely can do email much less discriminate > email spam from the packaged meat product. This idea may not be new > at all but Justin Mason suggested that I go ahead and post it to the

Re: Using Autowhitelist as a Greylist

2006-12-17 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Codger wrote: > > I was wondering about anyone's thoughts toward having a real > > autogreylist database as part of, but separate from, the autowhitelist > > in SA? Or even if you think this is all a bad thing to do in the first > > place. The appeal