Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/29 06:37, Simon Loewenthal wrote: On 29/11/11 15:21, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 11/28/2011 11:21 PM, Dave Warren wrote: On 11/28/2011 7:41 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:21:56 +1300, Jason Haar wrote: http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ does not work in chrome I tried in C

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread Dave Warren
On 11/29/2011 9:17 AM, Walter Hurry wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:37:57 +0100, Simon Loewenthal wrote: http://0xAD.0xC2.0x21.0x34/ Firefox treats it as : Unable to determine IP address from host name for /0xad.0xc2.0x21.0x34/ Name Error: The domain name does not exist. Works f

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:37:57 +0100, Simon Loewenthal wrote: >>> http://0xAD.0xC2.0x21.0x34/ > Firefox treats it as : > > Unable to determine IP address from host name for > /0xad.0xc2.0x21.0x34/ > Name Error: The domain name does not exist. Works for me in Firefox 8.

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread Simon Loewenthal
On 29/11/11 15:21, Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 11/28/2011 11:21 PM, Dave Warren wrote: >> On 11/28/2011 7:41 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: >>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:21:56 +1300, Jason Haar wrote: >>> http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ >>> does not work in chrome >> I tried in Chrome 16.0.912.41 beta-m and

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 11/28/2011 11:21 PM, Dave Warren wrote: > On 11/28/2011 7:41 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: >> On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:21:56 +1300, Jason Haar wrote: >> >>> http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ >> does not work in chrome > I tried in Chrome 16.0.912.41 beta-m and 17.0.953.0 canary, both > instantly changed th

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 20:17 -0800, Dave Warren wrote: > On 11/28/2011 7:37 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > I tried feeding "000192.000168.0007.0002" to Lynx and Opera as the sole > > command line argument: > > Wouldn't that be 000300.000250.0007.0002 ? Or did I miss a step here? > I was assuming t

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 20:28, John Hardin wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:35 -0800, jdow wrote: It is a way of obfuscating that's over the top and nobody has a way to get those oddball formulations easily from standard tools. They become an excellent way of

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-29 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 19:21, Jason Haar wrote: Don't have an answer for you, but I can say that the following URL works under FF-8.0 http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ (resolves to 18.18.18.18) However, if you force browsers through a squid proxy, squid-2.6 at least treats that as borked and won't play with

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 20:21:23 -0800, Dave Warren wrote: I tried in Chrome 16.0.912.41 beta-m and 17.0.953.0 canary, both instantly changed the displayed URL to "18.18.18.18" then timed out trying to browse. yep, if i add this ip it gives error in 15.x.x.x chrome dont know how to make chrome as

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011, John Hardin wrote: firefox 8.0: Error: Firefox can't establish a connection to the server at 0012.0012.0012.0012. That appears to have been an artifact of randomly choosing 12, which maps to the 10-net and falls afoul of my local network setup. http://00200.00200.00200

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:35 -0800, jdow wrote: It is a way of obfuscating that's over the top and nobody has a way to get those oddball formulations easily from standard tools. They become an excellent way of leading people to strange addresses with

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Warren
On 11/28/2011 7:41 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:21:56 +1300, Jason Haar wrote: http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ does not work in chrome I tried in Chrome 16.0.912.41 beta-m and 17.0.953.0 canary, both instantly changed the displayed URL to "18.18.18.18" then timed out tryin

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Dave Warren
On 11/28/2011 7:37 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:35 -0800, jdow wrote: It is a way of obfuscating that's over the top and nobody has a way to get those oddball formulations easily from standard tools. They become an excellent way of leading people to strange addresses with

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:21:56 +1300, Jason Haar wrote: http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ does not work in chrome they're http://0x12.0x12.com/ or the like! is working as clickbar, maybe 0x12 is not a valid tld ?

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 18:35 -0800, jdow wrote: > It is a way of obfuscating that's over the top and nobody has a way to > get those oddball formulations easily from standard tools. They become > an excellent way of leading people to strange addresses with strings > that include ?ASFDikmedsfok3l1ma

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread Jason Haar
Don't have an answer for you, but I can say that the following URL works under FF-8.0 http://0x12.0x12.0x12.0x12/ (resolves to 18.18.18.18) However, if you force browsers through a squid proxy, squid-2.6 at least treats that as borked and won't play with it. So even proxies are out of step with

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 17:49, C. Bensend wrote: I guess I'm confused why you think this is a vulnerability... It's simply another way to represent an IP address that browsers grok. Is it obfuscation? Sure. But hell, for the average internet user, a NON-obfuscated IP address is cryptic enough. ;) Th

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread C. Bensend
>> I guess I'm confused why you think this is a vulnerability... It's >> simply another way to represent an IP address that browsers grok. >> Is it obfuscation? Sure. But hell, for the average internet user, >> a NON-obfuscated IP address is cryptic enough. ;) This is just >> another way to d

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 17:05, C. Bensend wrote: Why bug such people unless their product IS vulnerable? Note that this seems to be an email trying to get people who have a "vulnerable" browser to click a specific link. I'd expect that link to be loaded with a zero day or the likes that the browser exhib

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread C. Bensend
> Why bug such people unless their product IS vulnerable? Note that this > seems > to be an email trying to get people who have a "vulnerable" browser to > click > a specific link. I'd expect that link to be loaded with a zero day or the > likes that the browser exhibits. > > I figured people here

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 14:36, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 11/28, jdow wrote: Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a If you have multiple emails with this pattern that spamassassin is not catching, please provide them via someth

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread darxus
On 11/28, jdow wrote: > >>>Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form > >>>178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a If you have multiple emails with this pattern that spamassassin is not catching, please provide them via something like pastebin. We can create rules to ma

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/28 05:43, RW wrote: On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:43:00 +0100 Thierry Besancon wrote: On 2011-11-27 13:26:43, jdow wrote: Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. According to C standards,

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-28 Thread RW
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:43:00 +0100 Thierry Besancon wrote: > On 2011-11-27 13:26:43, jdow wrote: > > Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form > > 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a > > serious fault in the browsers. > > According to C standards, a number beginnin

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/27 15:05, Mahmoud Khonji wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2011 01:26 AM, jdow wrote: Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. {^_^} adding to that: dott

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread Mahmoud Khonji
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2011 01:26 AM, jdow wrote: > Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form > 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a > serious fault in the browsers. > > {^_^} adding to that: dotted hex IPv4 0x12.0xab.0xcd.0xef. sing

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread Mahmoud Khonji
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/28/2011 01:43 AM, Thierry Besancon wrote: > On 2011-11-27 13:26:43, jdow wrote: >> Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form >> 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a >> serious fault in the browsers. > > According t

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/27 13:52, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 13:26 -0800, jdow wrote: Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. What piece of junk software presented an IP in that format? It

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread jdow
On 2011/11/27 13:43, Thierry Besancon wrote: On 2011-11-27 13:26:43, jdow wrote: Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. According to C standards, a number beginning with a 0 is an base 8 numbe

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 13:26 -0800, jdow wrote: > Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as > actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. > What piece of junk software presented an IP in that format? Itds obviously something I should avoid in f

Re: Question for experts....

2011-11-27 Thread Thierry Besancon
On 2011-11-27 13:26:43, jdow wrote: > Which browser(s) treat addresses of the form 178.000235.150.000372 as > actual addresses? That seems like a serious fault in the browsers. According to C standards, a number beginning with a 0 is an base 8 number. So 000235 is legal. It means 157 in decim