Re: Responsibility of sites that hold user-created documents (was Re: One-line URI body spam)

2011-10-26 Thread SM
At 13:03 19-10-2011, David F. Skoll wrote: In my dream world, people would blacklist Google. I made a suggestion The approach would also be applicable for pastebin (which is generally suggested on this mailing list) and any other free service. The subject could be rewritten as "responsibili

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-22 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Fri, 2011-10-21 at 11:08 -0400, Alex wrote: > guenther, thanks for spending the time to help with this. Back to the > books to learn more about REs. Frankly, the RE part was not that complicated. With an exception of the /s modifier of my solution. Your REs where not bad either. The most import

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-21 Thread Alex
Hi, >> > body            __BODY_URI      m{https?://.{1,50}$} >> >> That will match any email that ends with http:// followed by 1 to 50 >> characters of anythings, including spaces and other stuff not part of the >> url.  "$" is not "I want stuff to stop matching here."  It's the end. >> Either o

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 22:21 -0400, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: > > body__BODY_URI m{https?://.{1,50}$} > > That will match any email that ends with http:// followed by 1 to 50 > characters of anythings, including spaces and other stuff not part of the > url. "$" is not "I want

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread darxus
On 10/19, Alex wrote: > body__SHORT_BODY/.{1,150}$/ That will match anything that ends in 1 to 150 characters of anything. So it'll match any email that has 1 or more characters. > describe__SHORT_BODYShort email body > body__BODY_URI m{https?://.{1,5

Developing Rules, clarifying Body, and the Original Topic (was: Re: One-line URI body spam)

2011-10-19 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Sorry, this might be a bit long, but I hope it's worth reading. Not only for the OP... On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 19:28 -0400, Alex wrote: > >> > >> http://pastebin.com/P0cJdf2V > I was hoping to be able to write a rule based on a short message body > that also simply contained a URL. I thought this w

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread Alex
Hi, >> > >> http://pastebin.com/P0cJdf2V >> >> The URLs in the body of these messages don't give consistent results for >> a domain lookup and a reverse lookup on the IP: I was hoping to be able to write a rule based on a short message body that also simply contained a URL. I thought this would b

Re: Responsibility of sites that hold user-created documents (was Re: One-line URI body spam)

2011-10-19 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 21:37:56 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 16:03 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: Such a change would be trivial for Google, but my suggestion was ignored. Maybe it will take some blacklisting to get Google's attention. The problem with Google is that each ti

Re: Responsibility of sites that hold user-created documents (was Re: One-line URI body spam)

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 16:03 -0400, David F. Skoll wrote: > Such a change would be trivial for Google, but my suggestion was ignored. > Maybe it will take some blacklisting to get Google's attention. > The problem with Google is that each time they say "Don't be evil" you can't see their lips move

Responsibility of sites that hold user-created documents (was Re: One-line URI body spam)

2011-10-19 Thread David F. Skoll
On Wed, 19 Oct 2011 14:59:40 -0500 (CDT) David B Funk wrote: > BTW, you've totally misinterpreted my goole comment, I was talking > about the insanity of blacklisting "google.com" in a URI-RBL because > there was a "phish" page being hosted via docs.google.com. In my dream world, people would bl

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 10/18/11 6:27 PM, David B Funk wrote: So if you black-list those hosts you are generating FPs on any legit mails that link to those sites. Would you black-list google.com because somebody puts 'phish' forms in a google-docs spread-sheet and then

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 20:47 +0200, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Has anybody tried this and/or shown a worthwhile correlation between > > failing reverse IP lookup / aliasing and appearance of the URL in spammy > > body text? > > Not useful. > OK. Just askin' Martin

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2011-10-19 at 12:05 +0100, Martin Gregorie wrote: > > >> http://pastebin.com/P0cJdf2V > > The URLs in the body of these messages don't give consistent results for > a domain lookup and a reverse lookup on the IP: > > $ host guiadoagito.com.br > guiadoagito.com.br has address 69.163.138.1

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-19 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 20:54 -0400, Alex wrote: > http://pastebin.com/Y9mX1DRV > >> http://pastebin.com/P0cJdf2V > The URLs in the body of these messages don't give consistent results for a domain lookup and a reverse lookup on the IP: $ host guiadoagito.com.br guiadoagito.com.br has address

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread Alex
Hi, I'm having difficulty with figuring out how to tag spam where the body is only one line with a URL in it. Here is an example: http://pastebin.com/Y9mX1DRV >>> >>> It would be more helpful if you provided several examples.  It would be >>> easy enough to write a rule that ma

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread Walter Hurry
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:27:17 -0500, David B Funk wrote: > Would you black-list google.com Yes, happily.

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread Noel Butler
On Tue, 2011-10-18 at 17:27 -0500, David B Funk wrote: > So if you black-list those hosts you are generating FPs on any legit mails > that link to those sites. Would you black-list google.com because > somebody puts 'phish' forms in a google-docs spread-sheet and then Absolutely yes, size do

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 10/18/11 6:27 PM, David B Funk wrote: So if you black-list those hosts you are generating FPs on any legit mails that link to those sites. Would you black-list google.com because somebody puts 'phish' forms in a google-docs spread-sheet and then sends out spams with that as the payload? (I

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011 17:27:17 -0500 (CDT), David B Funk wrote: sends out spams with that as the payload? (I see lots of 'phish' spam with that tactic on a regular basis). . if google accept links to any uribl sites then yes i would block google, if google just have a phish page ok with me, those

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-18 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 18 Oct 2011, Alex wrote: Hi, I'm having difficulty with figuring out how to tag spam where the body is only one line with a URL in it. Here is an example: http://pastebin.com/Y9mX1DRV It would be more helpful if you provided several examples.  It would be easy enough to write a rule

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-17 Thread Alex
Hi, >> I'm having difficulty with figuring out how to tag spam where the body >> is only one line with a URL in it. Here is an example: >> >> http://pastebin.com/Y9mX1DRV > > It would be more helpful if you provided several examples.  It would be > easy enough to write a rule that matched just thi

Re: One-line URI body spam

2011-10-17 Thread darxus
On 10/17, Alex wrote: > I'm having difficulty with figuring out how to tag spam where the body > is only one line with a URL in it. Here is an example: > > http://pastebin.com/Y9mX1DRV It would be more helpful if you provided several examples. It would be easy enough to write a rule that matched