Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" >Sent: Friday, 2009/December/18 09:25 > >> On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: >>>hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" Sent: Friday, 2009/December/18 09:25 On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the futur

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Fri 18 Dec 2009 07:09:03 PM CET, Per Jessen wrote >> Completely agree, but the ZX80/1 made computers very, very >> affordable. I was 15 when I managed to convince my parents that I >> desperately needed >> one of those. Back in 1981, > > zx80 was 1980 imho, and had jus

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri 18 Dec 2009 07:09:03 PM CET, Per Jessen wrote Completely agree, but the ZX80/1 made computers very, very affordable. I was 15 when I managed to convince my parents that I desperately needed one of those. Back in 1981, zx80 was 1980 imho, and had just 1k ram, and 8k rom, fully expandeble

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Gene Heskett wrote: > On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: >>hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: >>> re: CP/M >>> >>> No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? >>> >>> My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual >>> 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating sys

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Bowie Bailey
R-Elists wrote: > as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i > remember correctly.. > > BRUN BEERRUN > > was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) > > ...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop > a bomb on a "space i

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, Per Jessen wrote: >hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: >> re: CP/M >> >> No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? >> >> My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual >> 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was >> going to be CP/M 8

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, John Hardin wrote: >On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Gene Heskett wrote: >> I got to work for several months as a bench tech for an outfit building >> the first pair of the then smallest tv cameras in the world. >> >> Later I found out that one of those civies was Jacques Cousteau,

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 18 December 2009, jdow wrote: >From: "Gene Heskett" >Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 21:21 [...] > >Now, if you want to "get me rolling" about an incompetent computer >company just mention GRiD and their Compass not really a laptop computer. >Even the bugs were themselves buggy. (We had

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
Benny Pedersen wrote: > On fre 18 dec 2009 15:57:18 CET, Per Jessen wrote > >> I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ZX80/1 yet. > > or even spectrum hacked to run cpm :) > >> I've also got a Newbrain stashed away somewhere, manuals, circuit >> diagrams an' all. > > add it to ebay if you want

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Benny Pedersen
On fre 18 dec 2009 15:57:18 CET, Per Jessen wrote I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ZX80/1 yet. or even spectrum hacked to run cpm :) I've also got a Newbrain stashed away somewhere, manuals, circuit diagrams an' all. add it to ebay if you want to sell it, if i remember newbrain has

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread Per Jessen
hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: > re: CP/M > > No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? > > My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual > 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was > going to be CP/M 86. I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the ZX80/1 y

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-18 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 18 Dec 2009, Gene Heskett wrote: I got to work for several months as a bench tech for an outfit building the first pair of the then smallest tv cameras in the world. Later I found out that one of those civies was Jacques Cousteau, 3 hours later had a contract to put those two camera

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: "Gene Heskett" Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 21:21 My impression of the (DEC) field engineers knowledge was that it was nil, other than the rote stuff, DEC had taught him. And I suspect Joanne would back me up on that. Those guys couldn't replace a stuck output cuz it had an open

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote: >> The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live >> with was an >> 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows >> combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every >> piece in that thing except the frame rail with th

RE: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread R-Elists
> The absolute, without a doubt, biggest POS I ever had to live > with was an > 11/23 that had more hdwe bugs than all issues of windows > combined since DOS5.0. Dec field engineers changed every > piece in that thing except the frame rail with the serial > number and all they managed to do

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, R-Elists wrote: >as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i >remember correctly.. > >BRUN BEERRUN > >was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) > >...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and >

RE: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread R-Elists
as far as museum pieces go, i submit that my first was an Apple 2E if i remember correctly.. BRUN BEERRUN was an interesting game, or something to that effect... ;-) ...and (snore) i also programmed a helicopter to fly across the top and drop a bomb on a "space invader" and go boom... wow hu

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, Robert Ober wrote: >hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: >> My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual >> 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was >> going to be CP/M 86. > >You and Jerry Pournelle :-) Yeah, but Jerry is

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, jdow wrote: >From: "Chris Hoogendyk" >Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 > >> Steve Lindemann wrote: > I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... > > Kevin >>> >>> I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh >>> th

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, jdow wrote: > I still have my K&E Log Log Duplex Decitrig. It still works. And it's > still aligned despite it's being bamboo. Ah, you've got the newer cheaper model. I inherited mine from my father (40's vintage) and it has a rosewood core. In my freshman year of college, (

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
jdow wrote: From: "Chris Hoogendyk" Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital co

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Robert Ober
hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. You and Jerry Pournelle :-)

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: "Chris Hoogendyk" Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 10:07 Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital computer (at work

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 17 December 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: >re: CP/M > >No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? Sorry, my omission. The first gizmo I ever built, in 1979, was a Quest Super Elf, which has an expansion connector on its board that allowed an s-100 buss backplane to be plugged into it.

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Chris Hoogendyk
Steve Lindemann wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper tape to load programs (after yo

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: "John Hardin" Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:35 On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk...

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, Charles Gregory wrote: On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk... I wonder if IBM finally phased them out? I still have a couple

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 09:06 re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? Processor Technology SOL-PC boosted to a higher speed (had to reengineer timing on the board.) I also added a paddle board with S-100 slots on both sides. I was able to stick 5 S-100 cards into a remar

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread jdow
From: "Steve Lindemann" Sent: Thursday, 2009/December/17 08:30 I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) Have one complete with the SASI hard disk. {^_^}

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Charles Gregory
On Thu, 17 Dec 2009, hc...@mail.ewind.com wrote: I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that there was no such thing as an 8" floppy disk... I wonder if IBM finally phased them out? I still have a couple as souvenirs :) - C

Re: OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread hchan
re: CP/M No S-100 bus systems mentioned yet? My first home computer was a Godbout S-100 bus system running a dual 8085/8088 CPU board. At that time, the future in operating systems was going to be CP/M 86. I decided it was time to upgrade when a computer store clerk was trying to tell me that

OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Steve Lindemann
I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I've seen CP/M mentioned but no mention of the venerable Kaypro! Oh those were the days 8^) But my first digital computer (at work) was a Raytheon 703 with paper tape to load programs (after you fingered in the boot) an

OT Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 12/17/09 8:56 AM, Kevin Golding wrote: I think I still have a Model B in the loft somewhere... Kevin I had an ASR 33 teletype with an Anderson Jacobs 110 baud coupler. We dialed into an 800 number owned by tymenet (an X.25 pad). had to hit the ^p on the keyboard after it stopped scream

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Kevin Golding
In article <64de5c8b0912162232k1482d588y8ebe065f17c45...@mail.gmail.com> , Rajkumar S writes >On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, McDonald, Dan > wrote: > >> I miss my Ohio Scientific C3. I had a Tektrinix 4027 terminal with more ram >> than the computer. > >Just wondering if any one here started of

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-17 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2009-12-16 at 18:27 -0800, Marc Perkel wrote: > > jdow wrote: > > From: "Charles Gregory" > > Sent: Wednesday, 2009/December/16 07:49 > > > > > >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: > >>> Marc Perkel wrote: > http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml > >>> There was actua

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-16 Thread Rajkumar S
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 10:05 AM, McDonald, Dan wrote: > I miss my Ohio Scientific C3. I had a Tektrinix 4027 terminal with more ram > than the computer. Just wondering if any one here started off with BBC Micro? I had couple of them in my school and they were truly sweet to program. http://en.

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-16 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Dec 16, 2009, at 9:42 PM, "David B Funk" > wrote: On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: I don't know if anyone still remembers this but this is what I had for my first computer back on 1979. I miss my Ohio Scientific C3. I had a Tektrinix 4027 terminal with more ram than the com

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-16 Thread David B Funk
On Wed, 16 Dec 2009, Marc Perkel wrote: > I don't know if anyone still remembers this but this is what I had for > my first computer back on 1979. > > http://www.scotthodson.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/08/imsai8080.jpg > > IMSAI 8080 - except I had a Z80 board for it. Hah, I've still got my

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-16 Thread Marc Perkel
jdow wrote: From: "Charles Gregory" Sent: Wednesday, 2009/December/16 07:49 On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house. For your amusement: I still have my ol

Re: Museum piece...

2009-12-16 Thread jdow
From: "Charles Gregory" Sent: Wednesday, 2009/December/16 07:49 On Tue, 15 Dec 2009, Chris Hoogendyk wrote: Marc Perkel wrote: http://www.vintage-computer.com/asr33.shtml There was actually a time when I had one of those in my house. For your amusement: I still have my old Commodore 64