Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread snowjack
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 22:31:26 +0100, "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > wrote on Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:09:53 -0800: > > > People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some > > people, including me, false positive rates for straight RBL rejection > > are unacceptable

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
wrote on Fri, 05 Nov 2004 10:09:53 -0800: > People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some > people, including me, false positive rates for straight RBL rejection > are unacceptable. I simply can't use straight RBL rejection. Not an > option. You didn't get my point

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread snowjack
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 13:31:27 +0100, "Kai Schaetzl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Doing this after a spamassassin scan is useless, nevertheless. See, my > other reply of today. People with high accuracy requirements would disagree with you. For some people, including me, false positive rates for st

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500: > /dev/nulling the message is not a > real option since mail should never just vanish, Quarantine spam. > and in the case of > > false positives, the sender would never get the rejection message. So, you want to reject 1000 messages to

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:56:25 -0500: > Ahh, I meant bounce at the smtp level, ie a Reject 553, not a bounce > after acceptance. > Doing this after a spamassassin scan is useless, nevertheless. See, my other reply of today. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rick Macdougall wrote on Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500: > If you don't bounce, what do you do ? /dev/nulling the message is not a > real option since mail should never just vanish, and in the case of > false positives, the sender would never get the rejection message. > We reject at MTA leve

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-05 Thread Jeff Chan
On Thursday, November 4, 2004, 11:42:47 AM, Yang Xiao wrote: > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/CustomRulesets > I find the custom rulesets are quite usefull, such as bigevil and > anti-drug, they have the rules for what you have mentioned Please don't use bigevil. It's huge and has been r

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Rick Macdougall
Kevin W. Gagel wrote: - Original Message Follows - To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Frustration... Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500 I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the >>subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc.

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread snowjack
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500, "Rick Macdougall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > If you don't bounce, what do you do ? /dev/nulling the message is not a > real option since mail should never just vanish, and in the case of > false positives, the sender would never get the rejection message. So

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kevin W. Gagel
- Original Message Follows - To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Frustration... Date: Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:39:43 -0500 > >>I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in > the >>subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. > &g

RE: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
Kai Schaetzl wrote: > Lisa Casey wrote on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:15:20 -0500: > >> I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words >> in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. > > Please, do NOT bounce. You just bounce to other spam victims. Depends how you do it. If y

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Rick Macdougall
Kai Schaetzl wrote: Lisa Casey wrote on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:15:20 -0500: I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do NOT bounce. You just bounce to other spam victims. If you don't bounce, what do you do ?

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Lisa Casey wrote on Thu, 4 Nov 2004 14:15:20 -0500: > I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words in the > subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. Please, do NOT bounce. You just bounce to other spam victims. > > I know I can do the above with MIMEDefang/Spamassa

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kris Deugau
Please, don't CC me. I subscribe to the list. Fred wrote: > We use action_bounce to stop mail from coming in for 5,000+ accounts > and all of our customers love it. You will always have 1 person who > doesn't want their mail scanned no matter what. It is doable in an > ISP environment but it ta

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Fred
Kris Deugau wrote: >> I'ld also like to drop, bounce, whatever mail that has certain words >> in the subject, such as rolex, penis, viagra, etc. > > *VERY*, **VERY** dangerous in an ISP environment!! I would STRONGLY > recommend AGAINST this. It has far too much potential to backfire on > you. >

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Kris Deugau
Lisa Casey wrote: > As far as I can tell, MIMEDefang/Spamassassin are working OK. I > tested Spamassassin when I installed it with the sample-nonspam.txt > and sample-spam.txt included. Mimeddefang adds this header to e-mail: > > X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.48 on 127.0.0.1 > > and Spamassassin add

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Jeff Koch
Hi Lisa: Hi Lisa: Spamassassin basically justs tags emails as spam. You need other programs like procmail to actually dispose of it. We run email for about 5000 domains and around 20,000 users. We use qmail with qmail-scanner for virus scanning and then vpopmail with qmailadmin, maildrop and sp

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Sandy S
Lisa wrote: > Also, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feed it spam. I have Sendmail/Qpopper > and most of my users pick up their mail using Outlook Express. I understand > I can't just forward spam to a spam mailbox and run sa-learn on that as the > forwarding will not get the original headers. > We

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Yang Xiao
Hi, As a fellow newbie, I have struggled to get everything working for the past two weeks as well, and I can see you are having some of the same problem I had(still having), so here's my $0.02, hope it helps, and for the experts out there, please correct me if I'm wrong with any of my assumptions!

Re: Frustration...

2004-11-04 Thread Greg Ennis
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15, Lisa Casey wrote: > Hi Folks, > . . > There has to be a easy way to learn to use this and get it to do what I want > but I can't really figure it out. Surely there are some other ISP's on these > lists who might be willing to tell me how they use it. > > Thanks, > >