Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 22 Aug 2007, Rense Buijen wrote: > I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then > having just one, gee, I thought it was a good thing but it turned > out to be a quite bad one :) It *is* a good idea. You just can't cheap out on configuring it. Ideally, your backup MXs sh

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Aaron Wolfe
On 8/22/07, Rense Buijen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! > I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be > passed it it came from that source. > I didnt know it will skip to the next "Received" IP. Thanks a lot. > > One question abo

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:43:19 +0200: > I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just > one Unfortunately, backup MXes attract spammers :-(. You could at least add some more backup MXs (that don't exist) on top of that, that may help to reduce the in

RE: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Rense Buijen wrote: > Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! > I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be > passed it it came from that source. > I didnt know it will skip to the next "Received" IP. Thanks a lot. > > One question about the "backscatter" problem thou

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Kai, I didn't know that a backup MX can lead to more trouble then having just one, gee, I thought it was a good thing but it turned out to be a quite bad one :) I'll go and use LDAP on the second MX to make sure the remote user exists, otherwise drop it silently. It's indeed getting a bit o

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rense Buijen wrote on Wed, 22 Aug 2007 16:01:09 +0200: > I think Exchange is configured the right way > in such a way that it knows what users it has on the system.. But your backup MX doesn't. As you say you are taking in all mail, forward it to primary and then bounce it back to the sender. B

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Thanks a lot all, it's all clear to me now! I though that the trusted networks mean that the message will just be passed it it came from that source. I didnt know it will skip to the next "Received" IP. Thanks a lot. One question about the "backscatter" problem though, if I understand correctl

RE: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Bowie Bailey
Rense Buijen wrote: > Mathhias, > > The problem is that when the mail enters the backup MX, we dont know > if that mail is blacklisted at for instance spamcop. > So if the backup mx accepts the mail (because it's dumb and it will > accept it), and my primary mx (SA) has set the backup mx as truste

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Ben O'Hara
Thats the one Ben On 8/22/07, Rense Buijen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > ...thats it? So it will skip the IP of the second MX and do an RBL check > against the IP who'm delivered it to the second MX? COOL! I thought it > would just ignore everything and pass on the mail Thanks! > > Ben O'Har

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Mathhias, The problem is that when the mail enters the backup MX, we dont know if that mail is blacklisted at for instance spamcop. So if the backup mx accepts the mail (because it's dumb and it will accept it), and my primary mx (SA) has set the backup mx as trusted network/source, the mail w

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Pawel, I dont think I can check the recipient, if it doesnt exist the mailserver should send a normal bounce like every mailserver does, right? So does the primary machine (Exchange) I dont see a problem with that. Do you know if there is another good setup without having to sync all my

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rense Buijen schrieb: > Thank you for your (quick) reply. > I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust > the mail that my backup MX sends to me. But your backup MX is "trusted" in the sense that it will not forge sender a

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Matthias, Thank you for your (quick) reply. I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the Prima

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Pawel Sasin
Hi I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the Primary MX where SA is running, SA is doing all t

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Rense Buijen
Hi Matthias, Thank you for your (quick) reply. I cannot utilize the trusted_networks settings because I cannot trust the mail that my backup MX sends to me. The backup MX does NO filtering at all, it just accepts ALL mail that has a certain destination domain and then forwards it to the Prima

Re: Email forwarding and RBL trouble

2007-08-22 Thread Matthias Leisi
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Rense Buijen schrieb: > The problem now lies with the RBL's, when the SA box dies, the mail will > be queued on my Exim box and when service is restored, it will forward > it again BUT the last "Received from:" path will be of course the Exim > host