> >> I believe they all need full participation for them to be effective?
> >
> > That depends on your definition of "effective". Each of these methods
> > provides the recipient a way of determining the legitimacy of an email.
> > If the sender is using one or more of these on his outgoing emails
> But I think the trouble is that SPF_FAIL and DKIM_SIGNED without
> DKIM_VERIFIED doesn't necessarily mean it's not being spoofed, right?
>
> For that reason I really haven't been able to make scoring decisions
> on either of them.
Both the DKIM_SIGNED and the DKIM_VERIFIED (now renamed to DKIM
Hi,
> I think the point is that the Habeas headers are no longer used (because
> they were too easy to fake). The new Return Path system is now IP
> based. So any email that has a Habeas header was either created by a
> previous Habeas customer who has not updated their configuration, or a
> spa
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Alex wrote:
Anyone can add a Habeas header. ?At best, it means they've got an
outdated configuration; at worst, it means they're spammers trying to
get past filters.
Isn't SPF and DKIM essentially as easily defeated?
SPF and DKIM have different goals than Habeas. They s
Alex wrote:
>> Anyone can add a Habeas header. At best, it means they've got an outdated
>> configuration; at worst, it means they're spammers trying to get past
>> filters.
>>
>> https://senderscore.org/lookup.php?lookup=208.85.50.30 reveals that the
>> 208.85.50.30 is not currently accredited un
Hi,
> Anyone can add a Habeas header. At best, it means they've got an outdated
> configuration; at worst, it means they're spammers trying to get past
> filters.
>
> https://senderscore.org/lookup.php?lookup=208.85.50.30 reveals that the
> 208.85.50.30 is not currently accredited under the "Retu
Adam Katz wrote:
Messages2 and/or mkt058.com have been thorough in working to ensure
their mail gets delivered cleanly, using SPF, DKIM, and Habeas (which
are all sender verification tools, the last of which is a sort of "we
promise this isn't spam" tool). The message also has a
List-Unsubscrib
Hi,
Thanks so much for everyone's help on this. I appreciate your spending
the time to school me.
Best,
Alex
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 4:26 PM, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote:
> Alex wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out if this is spam:
>>
>> http://pastebin.com/m64a38b1
>>
>
> I don't have an
Alex wrote:
Hi,
I'm trying to figure out if this is spam:
http://pastebin.com/m64a38b1
I don't have an opinion on the sender in question but we
have seen an increasing number of mails of this type - call
it "pseudo-spam" if you will.
What it is, is legitimate companies who are using the
-fl
Alex (aka "MySQL Student") wrote:
> I'm trying to figure out if this is spam:
> http://pastebin.com/m64a38b1
>
> I've had to obscure it to get around pastebin's spam filter by
> changing the '@' to '%#' in this message. The exxample.com is also
> my change.
>
> Is the habeas stuff right? How abo
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