Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-08-01 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, July 31, 2005, 11:37:44 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: > src="http://a248.e.akamai.net/7/248/1856/6fbc90232ac38d/www.wellsfargo.com/i > mg/eal_logo_gen.gif"> > Dear Wells Fargo customer, > As you may already know, we at Wells Fargo guarantee your href="http://aurum.vup.hr/%7Ewolf/cgi-bin/wel

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Loren Wilton
> > Any domain names in a phishing email code are most likely going to be legit > > domain names such as, ebay.com, bankofamerica,com, southtrustbank.com etc.. > > These are the domains visible to the target/sucker. On the other hand, I just got a phish insisting I had to update my wellsfargo acco

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, July 31, 2005, 10:39:14 AM, Greg Allen wrote: > People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the > actual target/sucker is sent) frequently. They are also probably going to > use random and ever changing computer IPs outside the US for obvious legal > reasons. Ma

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Sunday, July 31, 2005, 3:52:53 AM, Herb Martin wrote: > Presumably -- now you have me interested so I am going to check > -- ClamAV does more than a naive pattern match on the URI and > apparently they even have (had) endless debates in the ClamAV > newsgroups/lists on this subject. Sure, and a

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread hamann . w
>> >> I agree, we definitely need SURBL black lists. They have helped tremendously >> against spam! I just feel that it would be chasing one's tail a bit to try >> to catch phishing in SURBL. >> >> People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the >> actual target/sucker i

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Greg Allen
I agree, we definitely need SURBL black lists. They have helped tremendously against spam! I just feel that it would be chasing one's tail a bit to try to catch phishing in SURBL. People who do phishing are going to change their IP address (IP where the actual target/sucker is sent) frequently. Th

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Herb Martin
> ClamAV is designed to protect against viruses. While their > anti-phishing function works well, phishes and spam are not > viruses. They probably felt the need to do something because > the phishing threat is pretty serious, or can be if people > get tricked by them, but we've had a SURBL p

Re: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-31 Thread Jeff Chan
On Saturday, July 30, 2005, 11:47:40 PM, Greg Allen wrote: > It seems like this would be a hard thing to do by IPs. If you were to use > Clamav and the Spamassassin hook (see wiki for it), you may get better near > real-time phishing protection. That is what I do here any way. I give Clamav > a 100

RE: Adding SpamBouncer phishing data to ph.surbl.org

2005-07-30 Thread Greg Allen
It seems like this would be a hard thing to do by IPs. If you were to use Clamav and the Spamassassin hook (see wiki for it), you may get better near real-time phishing protection. That is what I do here any way. I give Clamav a 100 score. That's my 2 cents anyway. -Original Message- Fro