Re: About upgrading

2010-01-11 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010, RW wrote: I do wonder whether there's any real-basis to the idea that autoexpiry isn't "industrial-strength". I don't use expiry any more, but when I did, it didn't seem like a big deal at 200,000 tokens, and it's O(N) so millions of tokens shouldn't be too bad either. I

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-11 Thread RW
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:54:20 -0500 Jeff Mincy wrote: > You have an exclusive lock when doing expiration. Expiration > presumably takes longer on larger volumes, but it is still pretty > fast. Running expiration daily or weekly should be more than > sufficient. AFAIK the exclusive lock is only

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-11 Thread Alex
Hi, Thanks for the information on bayes and sa-learn. Very helpful. Best, Alex >   I suppose you could take the ntokens value before, and subtract it >   from the after value to see how many tokens were expired, right? It >   would be interesting to see how many tokens are expired on a regular >

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-11 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Alex Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 21:13:24 -0500 >   sa-learn --dump magic gives: >       0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version >       0.000          0      57538          0  non-token data: nspam >       0.000          0      74876        

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread Bill Landry
Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > >> -Original Message- >> From: Bill Landry [mailto:b...@inetmsg.com] >> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:42 PM >> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >> Subject: Re: About upgrading >> >> LuKreme wrote: >>&

RE: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
> -Original Message- > From: Bill Landry [mailto:b...@inetmsg.com] > Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2010 12:42 PM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: About upgrading > > LuKreme wrote: > > On 9-Jan-2010, at 21:23, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > >

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread Bill Landry
LuKreme wrote: > On 9-Jan-2010, at 21:23, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > >> It's the number of seconds since the epoch (Jan 1, 1970). One easy way to >> convert it to a readable time is >> >> # perl -e 'print scalar localtime 1263044805, "\n"' >> Sat Jan 9 08:46:45 2010 Or even simpler: perl -l

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread LuKreme
On 9-Jan-2010, at 21:23, Rosenbaum, Larry M. wrote: > It's the number of seconds since the epoch (Jan 1, 1970). One easy way to > convert it to a readable time is > > # perl -e 'print scalar localtime 1263044805, "\n"' > Sat Jan 9 08:46:45 2010 % date -r 1263044805 Sat Jan 9 06:46:45 MST 2

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread LuKreme
On 9-Jan-2010, at 07:07, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > LuKreme writes: > >> I think he (she?) > > He. Cecilia and Cecile are female, but Cecil is male. Think about Cecil > B. DeMill. I thought I was referring to Kai, which can go either way. I know Cecil is a male name. -- Wally: That's my nickn

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-10 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Jeff Mincy writes: >But it does not seem to be interesting in my situation. >First my code has to grow from: >sa-learn --${typeStr} ${HOME}/Maildir/.SpamDir.${dirStr}/cur/ >to: >for i in ${HOME}/Maildir/.SpamDir.${dirStr}/cur/*; do >spamc -L ${typeStr} <${i

RE: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Rosenbaum, Larry M.
--Original Message- > From: Alex [mailto:mysqlstud...@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 9:13 PM > To: SA Mailing list > Subject: Re: About upgrading > > Hi, > > >   sa-learn --dump magic gives: > >       0.000          0          3          0  n

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Alex
Hi, >   sa-learn --dump magic gives: >       0.000          0          3          0  non-token data: bayes db version >       0.000          0      57538          0  non-token data: nspam >       0.000          0      74876          0  non-token data: nham >       0.000          0     166338      

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread RW
On Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:24:56 +0100 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > Jeff Mincy writes: > > >I upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.2.5. I have the feeling that sa-learn > > takes more time with 3.2.5 as it took with 3.0.4. Can this be true? > > > >It is not a problem, because it is done by cron-tab, bu

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Cecil Westerhof Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 16:24:56 +0100 Jeff Mincy writes: >I upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.2.5. I have the feeling that sa-learn takes >more time with 3.2.5 as it took with 3.0.4. Can this be true? > >It is not a problem, because it is

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Jeff Mincy writes: >I upgraded from 3.0.4 to 3.2.5. I have the feeling that sa-learn takes >more time with 3.2.5 as it took with 3.0.4. Can this be true? > >It is not a problem, because it is done by cron-tab, but I am just >curious. > > You can use spamc -L spam/ham to learn

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Cecil Westerhof Date: Sat, 09 Jan 2010 14:39:59 +0100 Cecil Westerhof writes: > I did the upgrade. It took some time and there was a slight problem with > permissions, but it looks like a successful upgrade. I only changed > /dev/null to a real mailbox, because of

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
LuKreme writes: > I think he (she?) He. Cecilia and Cecile are female, but Cecil is male. Think about Cecil B. DeMill. -- Cecil Westerhof Senior Software Engineer LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/cecilwesterhof

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Cecil Westerhof writes: > I did the upgrade. It took some time and there was a slight problem with > permissions, but it looks like a successful upgrade. I only changed > /dev/null to a real mailbox, because of the 2010 problem. When something > like this happens again I now can recover those e-m

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Kai Schaetzl writes: >> you have changed WHAT??? > > He means he uses procmail and used to send all spam to /dev/null. That is right. I also made the following script: #!/usr/bin/env bash # When --no-filename is not an accepted parameter for grep use -h # When --max-count=1 is not a

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread LuKreme
On 9-Jan-2010, at 04:31, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: >> Kai Schaetzl writes: >> >> I only changed /dev/null to a real mailbox, > you have changed WHAT??? I think he (she?) meant that the local delivery for certain spam-thresholds was set to /dev/null and that's been changed to a real mailbo

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Sat, 9 Jan 2010 12:31:26 +0100: > you have changed WHAT??? He means he uses procmail and used to send all spam to /dev/null. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Kai Schaetzl writes: > > There's always a document about updating from the various old versions, > > read it and you will be prepared for most problems. But your SA is > > *really* old, expect some minor config problems. On 06.01.10 02:57, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > I did the upgrade. It took s

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-05 Thread Cecil Westerhof
Kai Schaetzl writes: > There's always a document about updating from the various old versions, > read it and you will be prepared for most problems. But your SA is > *really* old, expect some minor config problems. I did the upgrade. It took some time and there was a slight problem with permis

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-05 Thread David Bayle
Kai Schaetzl wrote: There's always a document about updating from the various old versions, read it and you will be prepared for most problems. But your SA is *really* old, expect some minor config problems. Kai Hy, Thanks for your advice but I have already read the UPGRADE file. We are

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-05 Thread Kai Schaetzl
There's always a document about updating from the various old versions, read it and you will be prepared for most problems. But your SA is *really* old, expect some minor config problems. Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: About upgrading

2010-01-05 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 05.01.10 17:51, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > After the scare about the 2010 problem, it was found that there was no > problem, but that was because an old version of SpamAssassin was used > (3.0.4). The web-site says it is not a big problem to upgrade to the > latest version. But in how far is this