Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-29 Thread Jari Fredriksson
>> What are the file names? > > CentOS is RHEL-based, right? Likely > /etc/rc.d/init,d/spamassassin /etc/init.d/spamassassin more propably.

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, John Calvert wrote: > I have decided to restart this whole process... setting the bayes > database back to its initial state & deleting auto-whitelist file. > > Is it good to use a bayes starter DB ?  If so, where can I get a > good one. It's not generally a good idea to use

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-26 Thread John Calvert
John D. Hardin wrote: On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, John Calvert wrote: I see no "-L" or "--local" anywhere.  See below... # Source spamd configuration. if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin ] ; then     . /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin fi You'll also want

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-26 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 26 Sep 2007, John Calvert wrote: > I see no "-L" or "--local" anywhere.  See below... > # Source spamd configuration. > if [ -f /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin ] ; then >     . /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin > fi You'll also want to look in /etc/sysconfig/spamassassin -- John Hardin KA7O

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-26 Thread John Calvert
John D. Hardin wrote: On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: Where is this configuration file? Probably under /etc/mail/spamassassin John Hardin wrote: Look for the command line that starts SA. If "-L" or "--local" appears, network tests have

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > Hmmm... deepest thread here w/ John Hardin somehow got > broken... nabble hiccup? My pruning stuff. > Where is this configuration file? Probably under /etc/mail/spamassassin > John Hardin wrote: > > > Look for the command line that starts SA. If "-L" or "-

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John Calvert
I am stopping using Nabble and just emailing my posting and responses. Evan Platt wrote: I'm pretty close to killfiling Nabble posters. Nabble is to spamassassin as Google Groups is to usenet. Seriously. At 12:15 PM 9/25/2007, feral wrote: Hmmm... deepest thread here w/ John Hardin somehow

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread Evan Platt
I'm pretty close to killfiling Nabble posters. Nabble is to spamassassin as Google Groups is to usenet. Seriously. At 12:15 PM 9/25/2007, feral wrote: Hmmm... deepest thread here w/ John Hardin somehow got broken... nabble hiccup? So I am posting response here:

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 12:15 -0700, feral wrote: > > Hmmm... deepest thread here w/ John Hardin somehow got > broken... nabble hiccup? > > So I am posting response here: > > Daniel McDonald wrote: > > > > basically, ensure it can resolve DNS. You can force it with > > > > dns_available yes [

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread feral
Hmmm... deepest thread here w/ John Hardin somehow got broken... nabble hiccup? So I am posting response here: Daniel McDonald wrote: > basically, ensure it can resolve DNS. You can force it with > > dns_available yes > use_bayes_rules > If you want to turn bayes off: > > use_bayes 0 > or

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > How do I enable network tests? ...and make sure your DNS on that box is configured and working, and you will probably want to install a local caching DNS server as well. -- John Hardin KA7OHZhttp://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/ [EMAIL PROTECT

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HOT_NASTY,PORN_16 > autolearn=no version=3.1.9 > > So BAYES_00 brought the score down to negative .6 ? Probably. > Methinks the BAYES is not even functional (database absent). It wouldn't give

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread Daniel J McDonald
On Tue, 2007-09-25 at 11:38 -0700, feral wrote: > > > John D. Hardin wrote: > > > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > > > >> Whatever the case, global bayes or not, or even bayes or not, how > >> could an email with the obvious porn words in the subject (as in > >> my examples) NOT get flagge

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread Evan Platt
At 11:45 AM 9/25/2007, feral wrote: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.6 required=4.0 tests=BAYES_00,HOT_NASTY,PORN_16 autolearn=no version=3.1.9 So BAYES_00 brought the score down to negative .6 ? Methinks the BAYES is not even functional (database absent). How do I enable network tests?

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread feral
John D. Hardin wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > >> Whatever the case, global bayes or not, or even bayes or not, how >> could an email with the obvious porn words in the subject (as in >> my examples) NOT get flagged? > > If bayes was mistrained to consider such words hammy, the

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread feral
John D. Hardin wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > >> Whatever the case, global bayes or not, or even bayes or not, how >> could an email with the obvious porn words in the subject (as in >> my examples) NOT get flagged? > > If bayes was mistrained to consider such words hammy, the

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > Whatever the case, global bayes or not, or even bayes or not, how > could an email with the obvious porn words in the subject (as in > my examples) NOT get flagged? If bayes was mistrained to consider such words hammy, then BAYES_00 could drag the score back do

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread feral
John D. Hardin wrote: > > On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > >> RE: training. I don't know. My experience w/ SA is that >> it just works and I haven't dealt with it at this level yet. >> What is strange is that SA appeared to be working fine >> for my client, then all of the sudden this spi

RE: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Tue, 25 Sep 2007, Leon Kolchinsky wrote: > As Dave said it seems that your problem in whitelist > configuration. Please use whitelist_from_rcvd instead of whatever > you are using. How so? The samples he posted did not say that whitelist rules were hitting. -- John Hardin KA7OHZ

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > RE: training. I don't know. My experience w/ SA is that > it just works and I haven't dealt with it at this level yet. > What is strange is that SA appeared to be working fine > for my client, then all of the sudden this spike in spam > occurred... and as I sa

RE: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-25 Thread Leon Kolchinsky
> RE: training. I don't know. My experience w/ SA is that > it just works and I haven't dealt with it at this level yet. > What is strange is that SA appeared to be working fine > for my client, then all of the sudden this spike in spam > occurred... and as I said, 99% of the spams have the > sen

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread feral
RE: training. I don't know. My experience w/ SA is that it just works and I haven't dealt with it at this level yet. What is strange is that SA appeared to be working fine for my client, then all of the sudden this spike in spam occurred... and as I said, 99% of the spams have the sender name s

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > Here are the headers & bodies of 3 of the spams that got through > (and are continuing to come through at a high rate): > tests=BAYES_00,HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2 > autolearn=no version=3.1.9 > tests=BAYES_00,HELO_DYNAMIC_IPADDR2, > HELO_DYNAMIC_SPLIT_I

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread feral
Dave Pooser wrote: > >> plus any address @blah.com > > This is an extremely ill-advised practice; spammers have tried using > @example.com addresses to send to example.com users for years. Hopefully > you're using whitelist_from_rcvd or checking authentication or similar > techniques. > > Als

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread Dave Pooser
> plus any address @blah.com This is an extremely ill-advised practice; spammers have tried using @example.com addresses to send to example.com users for years. Hopefully you're using whitelist_from_rcvd or checking authentication or similar techniques. Also, are you using network tests? Assuming

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread feral
The only whitelist addresses I have defined for him are my own email addresses, plus any address @blah.com. Here are the headers & bodies of 3 of the spams that got through (and are continuing to come through at a high rate): Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Sp

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread Luis Hernán Otegui
Hi, feral 2007/9/24, feral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Sorry if this is a well-known issue... first I have encountered it. > > I am using SA 3.1.9 installed on a CentOS Linux system. > > One of my clients just noticed a huge spike in spam getting > through, even though SA is turned on for his email

Re: sender name same as recipient name

2007-09-24 Thread John D. Hardin
On Mon, 24 Sep 2007, feral wrote: > Question: is SA not filtering out these obvious spams because the > name "mark" is the same as the name on my client's account? That depends on the rules in use. If a rule like From ~= /mark\@/ with a high negative score was defined, sure! Would it be possibl