Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-02-09 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/26/23 09:02, giova...@paclan.it wrote: MIMEDefang 2.84 will syntetize an header like: by $hostname (envelope-sender $Sender) (MIMEDefang) with ESMTP id $MessageID" even for authenticated emails while MIMEDefang 2.85+ will inject ESMTPA header for authenticated emails. This will change wh

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-26 Thread giovanni
On 1/26/23 08:51, Andrea Venturoli wrote: On 1/26/23 08:23, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: So, I'm tempted to conclude that I don't need to mess with internal_networks, msa_networks, and trusted_networks, Not here Ok. clients submitting mail without authentication (which was very common

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-25 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/26/23 08:23, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: So, I'm tempted to conclude that I don't need to mess with internal_networks, msa_networks, and trusted_networks, Not here Ok. clients submitting mail without authentication (which was very common >10 years ago and still persists somewhere

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 1/25/23 12:37, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: just the headers should be enough. You can also post headers on site like pastebin. On 25.01.23 15:34, Andrea Venturoli wrote: Trying again, with fewer details... Looking at a quarantined message, the only received header is (anonymized): Rec

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-25 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/25/23 12:37, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: just the headers should be enough. You can also post headers on site like pastebin. Trying again, with fewer details... Looking at a quarantined message, the only received header is (anonymized): Received: from [192.168.xxx.xxx] (xxx-xxx-xxx-xx

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-25 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 1/24/23 19:01, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Can you post the Received: headers? On 25.01.23 11:30, Andrea Venturoli wrote: I'm trying... I've prepared a long and detailed message, but it doesn't seem to come through... Curious if this simpler message will... just the headers should be

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-25 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/24/23 19:01, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: Can you post the Received: headers? I'm trying... I've prepared a long and detailed message, but it doesn't seem to come through... Curious if this simpler message will... bye & Thanks av.

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-24 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
>> Since the beginning of this year, however, incoming (SMTP authenticated) >> mail from clients outside the LAN is marked as spam. >> E.g. >> > X-Spam-Score: 10.756 (**) >> BAYES_00,KAM_DMARC_REJECT,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_LOTSOFHASH,KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS,LOT >> S_OF_MONEY,PDS_RDNS_DYNAMIC_FP,RCV

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-24 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/23/23 17:53, Bill Cole wrote: Hello. SA4 has been in ports for a while. MD3.x should be but is not. This is unlikely to be relevant to your problem. Yes, I know, but on HEAD. I'm using quarterly port branch (currently 2023Q1), otherwise, with so frequent changes, maintenance would be

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-24 Thread Andrea Venturoli
On 1/23/23 16:58, Reindl Harald wrote: split inbound and outbound mail on different servers and run a dedicated SA instance for submission port - clients don't have a business connecting to port 25 at all Thanks for answering. Having two mail servers is something we have considered: while pos

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread Bill Cole
On 2023-01-23 at 11:37:04 UTC-0500 (Mon, 23 Jan 2023 17:37:04 +0100) Matus UHLAR - fantomas is rumored to have said: Unfortunately SpamAssassin does not have set of rules to ignore for outgoing mail, nor special scores for those. This isn't quite true. The *_networks parameters determine how

RE: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread Marc
> > >> Since the beginning of this year, however, incoming (SMTP authenticated) > >> mail from clients outside the LAN is marked as spam. > >> E.g. > >> > X-Spam-Score: 10.756 (**) > >> > BAYES_00,KAM_DMARC_REJECT,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_LOTSOFHASH,KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS,LOT > >> > S_OF_MONEY,PDS_R

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread giovanni
On 1/23/23 17:53, Bill Cole wrote: On 2023-01-23 at 10:51:14 UTC-0500 (Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:51:14 +0100) Andrea Venturoli is rumored to have said: Hello. I've got a long standing server, where I run FreeBSD (13.1) + sendmail (8.17.1) + MIMEDefang (2.84) + SpamAssassin (3.4.6). (I know there a

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread Bill Cole
On 2023-01-23 at 10:51:14 UTC-0500 (Mon, 23 Jan 2023 16:51:14 +0100) Andrea Venturoli is rumored to have said: Hello. I've got a long standing server, where I run FreeBSD (13.1) + sendmail (8.17.1) + MIMEDefang (2.84) + SpamAssassin (3.4.6). (I know there are more recent versions, but that's

Re: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Since the beginning of this year, however, incoming (SMTP authenticated) mail from clients outside the LAN is marked as spam. E.g. > X-Spam-Score: 10.756 (**) BAYES_00,KAM_DMARC_REJECT,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,KAM_LOTSOFHASH,KHOP_HELO_FCRDNS,LOT S_OF_MONEY,PDS_RDNS_DYNAMIC_FP,RCVD_IN_PBL,RCVD_IN_Z

RE: Messages from outer clients marked as spam

2023-01-23 Thread Marc
> I've got a long standing server, where I run FreeBSD (13.1) + sendmail > (8.17.1) + MIMEDefang (2.84) + SpamAssassin (3.4.6). > (I know there are more recent versions, but that's what ports currently > provide). > This has been working perfectly for years. yes time changes, currently gmail is so