Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-25 Thread Per Jessen
Johann Spies wrote: > > Thanks. To me it is special to get help from Zürich. I have a > daughter and son staying there. Hallo Johann, I've just checked the directory, and there are exactly two people named 'Spies' in Zurich. Bwt, Denmark had a Simon Spies, a travel-king who was quite famous i

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-25 Thread Johann Spies
Hallo Per, > > I have three rules that would have helped you catch some of those > (I didn't check all of your examples): > > # google group URL contains .. > uri NN_GOOGLE_GROUP_DD m'www\.google\.com/.*\.\..*/group/'i > describe NN_GOOGLE_GROUP_DD Link to a Google group contains '..' > sc

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-25 Thread Per Jessen
Johann Spies wrote: > On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:51:36PM +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >> More seriously, unless you provide raw samples [1], including the >> rules hit on your system, there's probably not much else to say. >> > > You can download them at ftp://g...@ftp.sun.ac.za/pespos.tar.

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-25 Thread Johann Spies
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 02:51:36PM +0100, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > More seriously, unless you provide raw samples [1], including the rules > hit on your system, there's probably not much else to say. > You can download them at ftp://g...@ftp.sun.ac.za/pespos.tar.gz . Use password 'tydelik'.

RE: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Tue, February 24, 2009 17:02, Per Jessen wrote: >> Probably a safer rule than my first post is the >> following untested code that at least checks if the message came >> from google. > Jason, why do you think it's important where the msgs come from? google domainkeys uses yahoo.com ? i have n

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread James Wilkinson
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > However, there are some highly abusive patterns sticking out. A google > URI with a ../ in the path? Sure! Score 2. :) Alternating alpha and > numbers might be worth another point. A question mark in a google groups > URI? Punish that. You can eliminate links to Usene

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 17:59 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: >> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > >> Yeah, I guess I was in a hurry - but actually, they barely hit >> anything, >> only DKIM_SIGNED and DKIM_VERIFIED. I've added my own rule: >> >> uri PJ_GOOGLEGRP_DODGYURI m

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 17:59 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Yeah, I guess I was in a hurry - but actually, they barely hit anything, > only DKIM_SIGNED and DKIM_VERIFIED. I've added my own rule: > > uri PJ_GOOGLEGRP_DODGYURI m'www\.google\.com/.*\.\..*/group/'i > w

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Per Jessen wrote: >> A question mark in a google >> groups URI? Punish that. > > Good point, I hadn't spotted that one. > Actually I had, but my rule didn't take the superfluous garbage (in the URL) before /group/ into account. Thanks for making me double check it. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Marc Perkel wrote: > I think the idea is to look to see if the message came from google > servers to avoid false positives. If it's not from a google server > then it's more likely spam. Ah, okay - got it. Yes, make sense. /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:14 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: >> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: >> >> > Yes, I too get spam with google groups URIs. Typically scores quite >> > high, though. So I guess the answer would be "I deal with it by >> > running SA..." ;) >> > >> > More s

RE: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Jason Bertoch
> -Original Message- > From: Per Jessen [mailto:p...@computer.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 11:02 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: Googlegroups related spam > > > > > My experience is the same in that the messages don't ac

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 16:14 +0100, Per Jessen wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > > Yes, I too get spam with google groups URIs. Typically scores quite > > high, though. So I guess the answer would be "I deal with it by > > running SA..." ;) > > > > More seriously, unless you provide raw samp

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Marc Perkel
Per Jessen wrote: Jason Bertoch wrote: -Original Message- From: Per Jessen [mailto:p...@computer.org] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:15 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: Googlegroups related spam here's a couple of examples that made it through my f

RE: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Jason Bertoch wrote: >> -Original Message- >> From: Per Jessen [mailto:p...@computer.org] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:15 AM >> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >> Subject: Re: Googlegroups related spam >> >> >> here'

RE: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Jason Bertoch
> -Original Message- > From: Per Jessen [mailto:p...@computer.org] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 10:15 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Googlegroups related spam > > > here's a couple of examples that made it through my filter

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Per Jessen
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Yes, I too get spam with google groups URIs. Typically scores quite > high, though. So I guess the answer would be "I deal with it by > running SA..." ;) > > More seriously, unless you provide raw samples [1], including the > rules hit on your system, there's probably

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Ned Slider
Jason Bertoch wrote: -Original Message- From: Johann Spies [mailto:jsp...@sun.ac.za] Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:59 AM To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Googlegroups related spam The following link describes a problem we are experiencing: http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/

Re: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-02-24 at 14:58 +0200, Johann Spies wrote: > The following link describes a problem we are experiencing: > http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/01/21/google-groups-spam-abuse-reporting-broken/ > > It seems to me the only way to counter that type of spam is to > do a curl or wget on each u

RE: Googlegroups related spam

2009-02-24 Thread Jason Bertoch
> -Original Message- > From: Johann Spies [mailto:jsp...@sun.ac.za] > Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2009 7:59 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Googlegroups related spam > > The following link describes a problem we are experiencing: > http://www.joewein.net/blog/2009/01/21/g