Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-22 Thread RW
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 00:22:31 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > >> in doubt the amout of trained ham and spam should be near 50%, > > > > This is myth. What's important is to have enough of each, the actual > > ratio is not important. > > true - but you don't have much to measure the "enough of each"

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-22 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 23.02.2015 um 00:11 schrieb RW: On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:36:38 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: And I'd suggest the same for non-spam, train duplicative ham even if it happens to be similarly addressed to different users. More data is (nearly) always better for bayesian learning systems of course

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-22 Thread RW
On Fri, 20 Feb 2015 21:36:38 +0100 Reindl Harald wrote: > > > And I'd suggest the same for non-spam, train duplicative ham even > > if it happens to be similarly addressed to different users. More > > data is (nearly) always better for bayesian learning systems > > of course With the caveat th

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Patrick Domack
Quoting Kevin Miller : When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the bayes database, is there a significant difference between training on all 50+ or just grabbing a few o

RE: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Kevin Miller
lto:da...@hireahit.com] > Sent: Friday, February 20, 2015 11:30 AM > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: Quick question about training... > > On 2015-02-20 09:44, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > On 2/20/2015 12:35 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > >> When a fresh spam flood comes

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.02.2015 um 21:29 schrieb Dave Warren: On 2015-02-20 09:44, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 2/20/2015 12:35 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the ba

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Dave Warren
On 2015-02-20 09:44, Bowie Bailey wrote: On 2/20/2015 12:35 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the bayes database, is there a significant differe

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 2/20/2015 12:35 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the bayes database, is there a significant difference between training on all 50+ or just g

Re: Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.02.2015 um 18:35 schrieb Kevin Miller: When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the bayes database, is there a significant difference between training on all 50+ or jus

Quick question about training...

2015-02-20 Thread Kevin Miller
When a fresh spam flood comes in, sometimes 50 or more of my users will get hit with the same message - just a different user in the To: line. When one trains the bayes database, is there a significant difference between training on all 50+ or just grabbing a few of the messages and training on