Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Loren Wilton
> Even worse: > http://123.456.78.90/page";>https://example.com/page > > You can throw in a few extra points for an onMouseOver clause > that sets the status bar to https ... :) Would you believe that there is no reasonable way to detect that last one currently with SA? Which is a shame, since it

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Stewart Nelson
Please visit http://phisher.com/path/to/page";>http://example.com/page Those ones, indeed. And, IMO easier to detect, and worthy of a higher score: http://phisher.com/page";>https://example.com/page Even worse: http://123.456.78.90/page";>https://example.com/page You can throw in a few extra points

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Julian Field
At 15:53 15/09/2004, John Wilcock wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:03:02 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > What about all those image caching services? > They would all get tagged, which is a large amount of legit newsletters. I suspect we're talking at cross purposes. I assumed that Julian's original qu

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread John Wilcock
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 10:03:02 -0400, Chris Santerre wrote: > What about all those image caching services? > They would all get tagged, which is a large amount of legit newsletters. I suspect we're talking at cross purposes. I assumed that Julian's original query was about cases where the text to b

RE: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Chris Santerre
>-Original Message- >From: Chr. von Stuckrad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 5:41 AM >To: users@spamassassin.apache.org >Subject: Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection > > >On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:17:15AM -0700, Jeff Cha

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Julian Field
Original Message- From: Jeff Chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2004 02:57:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection > On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 2:41:14 AM, Chr. Stuckrad wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:17:1

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Jesse Houwing
:13 -0700 Subject: Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection > On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 2:41:14 AM, Chr. Stuckrad wrote: > > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:17:15AM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > >> On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 1:38:30 AM, Julian Field wrote: > >> > ... I

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Loren Wilton
> > In most phishing scams, the real address of a URL is unrelated to the link > > text that appears in the mail client. Is it possible to detect where > > bar > > and foo and bar are unrelated domains? > > > I guess the question boils down to "can backreferences be used in > regexes for SA rules"?

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 2:41:14 AM, Chr. Stuckrad wrote: > On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:17:15AM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: >> On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 1:38:30 AM, Julian Field wrote: >> > ... Is it possible to detect where >> > bar >> > and foo and bar are unrelated domains? >> >> Th

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Chr. von Stuckrad
On Wed, Sep 15, 2004 at 02:17:15AM -0700, Jeff Chan wrote: > On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 1:38:30 AM, Julian Field wrote: > > ... Is it possible to detect where > > bar > > and foo and bar are unrelated domains? > > That could be a good idea for a rule. It would be nice if it > could be dete

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread John Wilcock
On Wed, 15 Sep 2004 09:38:30 +0100, Julian Field wrote: > I have checked the archives, can't find anything directly related to this. > > In most phishing scams, the real address of a URL is unrelated to the link > text that appears in the mail client. Is it possible to detect where > bar > and fo

Re: Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Jeff Chan
On Wednesday, September 15, 2004, 1:38:30 AM, Julian Field wrote: > I have checked the archives, can't find anything directly related to this. > In most phishing scams, the real address of a URL is unrelated to the link > text that appears in the mail client. Is it possible to detect where > bar

Phishing obfuscated url detection

2004-09-15 Thread Julian Field
I have checked the archives, can't find anything directly related to this. In most phishing scams, the real address of a URL is unrelated to the link text that appears in the mail client. Is it possible to detect where bar and foo and bar are unrelated domains? Thanks folks. -- Julian Field