Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-11 Thread Ilan Aisic
Just a followup: Well,  in the last few messages the rule SARE_HTML_MANY_BR05  hasn't been fired anymore. I then got one that fired SARE_OBFU_MEDS, but the last one I got did not fire any SARE rule or other stock rules. However, the score keeps getting higher and higher due to all the network chec

Re[2]: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-09 Thread Robert Menschel
Hello Ilan,    Tuesday, September 6, 2005, 12:07:24 AM, you wrote:   IA> I keep getting these kind of pharm. spam where a list of  IA> drugs and their prices is arranged in an html table. ...      IA> Obviously, the OBFU rule set is not that sophisticated.    Could have fooled me, since none of

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-07 Thread Loren Wilton
> I know the problem with commercial recipients but I dont fully understand it (running a mailserver > for clients that dont like greylist, myself) There are essentially two problems here that bother commercial email traffic. 1.As you noted, some people like to use email as instant messaging,

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread hamann . w
>> >> --On Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:38 AM -0700 List Mail User >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> >You have the unfortunate luck of being on the cutting edge >> > of the spam runs, most of these domains are now in 4 or 5 SURBL >> > lists, which will give you scores of close to 12 alon

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Tuesday, September 06, 2005 12:38 AM -0700 List Mail User <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: You have the unfortunate luck of being on the cutting edge of the spam runs, most of these domains are now in 4 or 5 SURBL lists, which will give you scores of close to 12 alone. Greylisting woul

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread Ilan Aisic
Loren, Just wanted to thank you for the eloquent resonse and for your significant contributions  to SARE and this list. On 9/6/05, Loren Wilton < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:...I'll cut a set of rules for them.Loren -- Ilan AisicRegistered Linux User 8124 http://counter.li.org

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread M.Lewis
Very interesting Loren. I think a good assesment of whoever is sending the spam. I spend a fair portion of my day trying to catch up (filter) these dudes out of my Inbox. Thanks for the insights! Mike Loren Wilton wrote: Obviously, the OBFU rule set is not that sophisticated. On the co

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread List Mail User
You have the unfortunate luck of being on the cutting edge of the spam runs, most of these domains are now in 4 or 5 SURBL lists, which will give you scores of close to 12 alone. They are also listed at Spamhaus as of yesterday and the name servers from one day before. A partial l

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread Loren Wilton
> Obviously, the OBFU rule set is not that sophisticated. On the contrary, they are quite sophisticated in many cases. > On top of that, the spammer (someone said it's Leo Kuvayev) However, Leo is also quite sophisticated. And he has changed his spam generators in the last week to make things t

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread M.Lewis
Ilan, I believe this is the *exact* same dude/dudette that I was referring to with the topic 'Rule Question'. Mike Ilan Aisic wrote: Hi again, I keep getting these kind of pharm. spam where a list of drugs and their prices is arranged in an html table. I'm using all the SARE rules includin

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-06 Thread Ilan Aisic
Hi again, I keep getting these kind of pharm. spam where a list of drugs and their prices is arranged in an html table.   I'm using all the SARE rules including the OBFU (which I've added thanks to recommendations in this thread. However, only the SARE_HTML_MANY_BR05  is fired  ( Tooo many 's!). I

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-05 Thread Loren Wilton
> Does this cf 70_sare_obfu.cf file work with SA 2.64 as well Most SARE rules work with 2.6x through current, unless they specifically say they are only for a certain release or range of releases. Loren

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-05 Thread Ramprasad A Padmanabhan
On Sun, 2005-09-04 at 03:20, wolfgang wrote: > In an older episode (Saturday, 3. September 2005 19:51), Ilan Aisic wrote: > > > It would be very difficult to write rules that would detect spam > > disguised like this in an HTML table. > > I think the SARE obfu rules catch quite a few of those, se

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-03 Thread Loren Wilton
> It would be very difficult to write rules that would detect spam > disguised like this in an HTML table. > Any comment? Yes it would be. Is. That said, I think we have a rule or two in the SARE stuff, probably in the HTML files, that attempt to catch at least some of these. Don't know how wel

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-03 Thread List Mail User
>... > >I was surprised to get an email with a list of drugs that scored >relatively little on SA. >Apparently, the spammer cleverly divided all the words into pairs of >letters and placed each pair in the proper table cell just so that the it >all appear right (all the drug names next to their pri

Re: Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-03 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 3. September 2005 19:51), Ilan Aisic wrote: > It would be very difficult to write rules that would detect spam > disguised like this in an HTML table. I think the SARE obfu rules catch quite a few of those, see http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules.htm#obfu cheers, w

Pharamcudical list of words in a table

2005-09-03 Thread Ilan Aisic
I was surprised to get an email with a list of drugs that scored relatively little on SA. Apparently, the spammer cleverly divided all the words into pairs of letters and placed each pair in the proper table cell just so that the it all appear right (all the drug names next to their prices). I als