Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread Derek Harding
John Rudd wrote: No, 70 would still be 70. 07 would become 00. And 07 is a pretty faint red. Looking at it now, I can't distinguish it from black. (70 is 0111 so the lower 3 or 4 bits are already 0's, whereas 07 is 0111 .. THAT becomes 0 and is indistinguishable from black

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread John D. Hardin
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Maybe I'm not getting the obvious, but what about using something like > Perl::Magick to convert a given image into B/W? I mean, ImageMagick is > made for things like that... > Shrinking it to, say, a quarter of it's original size would take care of >

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread dirk
> > On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:03 AM, Matthias Keller wrote: > will it not be much faster just to make a md5 sum on the image file without thinking if it a appel or orange ? :-) >>> Yes, but just taking a straight sum will be sensitive to all of those >>> small pixels which are changed by

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 2, 2006, at 3:03 AM, Matthias Keller wrote: will it not be much faster just to make a md5 sum on the image file without thinking if it a appel or orange ? :-) Yes, but just taking a straight sum will be sensitive to all of those small pixels which are changed by the spammers so that th

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread Matthias Keller
will it not be much faster just to make a md5 sum on the image file without thinking if it a appel or orange ? :-) Yes, but just taking a straight sum will be sensitive to all of those small pixels which are changed by the spammers so that they have different sums, but the differences aren'

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 2, 2006, at 12:12 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, August 2, 2006 06:11, John Rudd wrote: white will produce (assuming 24bit color) f0,f0,f0 and black will produce 00,00,00. Thus, you get a nice high-contrast image for feeding just for clearness white is ff, ff, ff yes, white i

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 1, 2006, at 11:58 PM, Derek Harding wrote: John Rudd wrote: On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Derek Harding wrote: John Rudd wrote: Um, how exactly will they fail? How about a nice black & white speckled image with red text on it? Explain to me how you think it will fail? So you're

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-02 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, August 2, 2006 06:11, John Rudd wrote: > white will produce (assuming 24bit color) f0,f0,f0 and black will > produce 00,00,00. Thus, you get a nice high-contrast image for feeding just for clearness white is ff, ff, ff will it not be much faster just to make a md5 sum on the image file

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread Derek Harding
John Rudd wrote: On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Derek Harding wrote: John Rudd wrote: Um, how exactly will they fail? How about a nice black & white speckled image with red text on it? Explain to me how you think it will fail? So you're dropping three bits? White is FF, Black 00,

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 1, 2006, at 10:30 PM, Derek Harding wrote: John Rudd wrote: Um, how exactly will they fail? How about a nice black & white speckled image with red text on it? Explain to me how you think it will fail?

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread Derek Harding
John Rudd wrote: Um, how exactly will they fail? How about a nice black & white speckled image with red text on it? BTW I think the OCR approach is unlikely to succeed due to processing constraints. Derek

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread John Rudd
On Aug 1, 2006, at 8:55 PM, Loren Wilton wrote: 2) to combat the "images with subtle differences", develop a checksum method that ignores the lower (3 or 4 bits? out of 8 bits) of each color channel. That way you get what is essentially a very high Won't work. White on black and black on w

Re: My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread Loren Wilton
2) to combat the "images with subtle differences", develop a checksum method that ignores the lower (3 or 4 bits? out of 8 bits) of each color channel. That way you get what is essentially a very high Won't work. White on black and black on white are both quite readable, and will fail the ab

My thoughts on image spam strategies

2006-08-01 Thread John Rudd
1) use Martin Blapp's OCR plugin/patch for SA. feed data to bayes. http://antispam.imp.ch/patches/patch-ocrtext 2) to combat the "images with subtle differences", develop a checksum method that ignores the lower (3 or 4 bits? out of 8 bits) of each color channel. That way you get what is e