Re: INVALID_DATE on 2-digit year

2007-01-29 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 08:54:01PM +0100, Sander wrote: > Date: Mon, 29 Jan 07 20:33:10 +0100 > > So, wondering what the problem would be, i read the RFC. This says that > a 2-digit year is obsolete, but supported for backwards compatibility. FWIW, SA doesn't care about RFC compliance in as much

INVALID_DATE on 2-digit year

2007-01-29 Thread Sander
Dear list, I have an e-mail using a two-digit year in the Date: header. It seems that INVALID_DATE is triggered. The complete (but obfuscated) e-mail is here: >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 29 20:33:33 2007 Return-path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-24 Thread Craig McLean
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Lee wrote: > On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, mouss wrote: > >> Daryl C. W. O'Shea a écrit : >>> David Lee wrote: >>> >>>> If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it shouldn't >>

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-24 Thread David Lee
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006, mouss wrote: > Daryl C. W. O'Shea a écrit : > > David Lee wrote: > > > >> If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it shouldn't > >> be marking it "INVALID_DATE". Incidentally, it is this aspect (rather

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread jdow
From: "mouss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I lately saw an FP with RCVD illegal IP, because of a 127.0.0.80 IP. while this rarely used, it's not illegal. so the rule is just bogus IMHO. 50_scores.cf:score RCVD_ILLEGAL_IP 1.585 0.234 1.813 0.288 With a set 3 score of 0.288, I'd say this isn't a big hi

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread jdow
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> c:\>man strftime 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. The mere fact that documentation is less accessible on windows should not be taken as an excuse by programmers to reinvent the wheel as an egg-shaped thingy

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread mouss
Daryl C. W. O'Shea a écrit : > > I'm not being a "std crusader". I'm simply pointing out that someone > going there own way shouldn't expect everyone to accept their way, > especially when there's an established majority going the other way. > > Just because a mail is "standards compliant" doesn

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
mouss wrote: I here mean that you can't go as a "std crusader" and at the same time break the standards by tagging std compliant mail. statistics are no excuse for rejecting/tagging mail. I'm not being a "std crusader". I'm simply pointing out that someone going there own way shouldn't expec

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread mouss
Nigel Frankcom a écrit : > Just a mild - un-warlike comment, but - there are a few of us out here > that use win-based servers; I freely admit win have a skewed idea of > dates, but that doesn't change the problem. > > Craig kindly wrote an awk that did the date conversion for my (squid) > logs so

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread mouss
Daryl C. W. O'Shea a écrit : > David Lee wrote: > >> If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it shouldn't >> be marking it "INVALID_DATE". Incidentally, it is this aspect (rather >> than any other) of the date that is triggerin

Re: Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Nigel Frankcom
Just a mild - un-warlike comment, but - there are a few of us out here that use win-based servers; I freely admit win have a skewed idea of dates, but that doesn't change the problem. Craig kindly wrote an awk that did the date conversion for my (squid) logs so that I can get some sanity from my l

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread mouss
Craig Morrison a écrit : > I guess 'man strftime' is too difficult to manage. ;-D > sure, but unix and C are obsolete. (sure, this calls for war, but I didn't start it).

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Daryl C. W. O'Shea
David Lee wrote: If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it shouldn't be marking it "INVALID_DATE". Incidentally, it is this aspect (rather than any other) of the date that is triggering this SA rule, isn't it? I guess we could fix it

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Craig Morrison
David Lee wrote: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006, Craig Morrison wrote: At any rate and to try and bring this discussion somewhat back on topic, strftime makes it trivial to change date formats merely by changing the format string given as one of its arguments. Any debate regarding difficulty of change by t

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Sander Holthaus
t timezone > specification is in breach of RFC 822 or 2822 ? > > If it is in breach, and can be shown to be, then this can be > presented, factually (not as opinion), complete with derivation, to > the ISP. > > If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it >

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread David Lee
h, and can be shown to be, then this can be presented, factually (not as opinion), complete with derivation, to the ISP. If, conversely, it is not in breach, then SA has a problem: it shouldn't be marking it "INVALID_DATE". Incidentally, it is this aspect (rather than any other

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 March 2006 08:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> c:\>man strftime >> 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, >> operable program or batch file. > >The mere fact that documentation is less accessible on windows should > not be taken as an excuse by programmers to rein

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Craig Morrison
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: c:\>man strftime 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file. The mere fact that documentation is less accessible on windows should not be taken as an excuse by programmers to reinvent the wheel as an egg-shaped thingy Wol

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread hamann . w
> c:\>man strftime > 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, > operable program or batch file. The mere fact that documentation is less accessible on windows should not be taken as an excuse by programmers to reinvent the wheel as an egg-shaped thingy Wolfgang Hamann

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread jdow
Strftime does not exist either. Windows is DUMB. It IS found in VC++'s documentation, though. {^_-} - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 23:26 Subject: RE: INVALID_DATE jdow wrote: c:\>man strftime 'man' is not r

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-23 Thread Loren Wilton
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > required 6, BAYES_40 -0.18, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 2.53, > > FROM_LOCAL_HEX 1.30, INVALID_DATE 2.19, NO_REAL_NAME 0.96) > Aside: the "FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS" and "FROM_LOCAL_HEX" are probably > immutable, as the &q

RE: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Matthew.van.Eerde
jdow wrote: > c:\>man strftime > 'man' is not recognized as an internal or external command, > operable program or batch file. Heh. Actually, on my machine: C:\>man strftime This command is not supported by the help utility. Try "strftime /?". ... of course, I should probably note C:\custom-p

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread jdow
Ah, but "man strftime" does not universally apply. For people with their heads buried deeply enough up the Windows mire they've probably never heard of either the RFCs, man, or strftime. That's sad. It's life in the world with Microsoft in it. {^_-} - Original Message - From: "Philip Pri

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Philip Prindeville
It's part of the ISO C standard runtime libraries. -Philip jdow wrote: >Oh, let's mix up this top/bottom miscegenation with a topper this time >(We're human. It behooves us to prove it and adapt to the other guy's >peculiarities or necessities.) > >Rant out of the way here is a simple obser

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread jdow
Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Philip Prindeville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 March 2006 16:10 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: INVALID_DATE David Lee wrote: System: SA 3.1.0 (called from MailScanner, called from sendmail. The ISP "mmail.co.uk&q

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Craig Morrison
? Cheers, Phil Phil Randal Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK -Original Message- From: Philip Prindeville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 March 2006 16:10 To: users@spamassassin.apache.org Subject: Re: INVALID_DATE David Lee wrote: System: SA 3.1.0 (called from Ma

RE: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Martin Hepworth
o: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: RE: INVALID_DATE > > For what it's worth, Vodafone's as bad (stuff changed to protect the > innocent): > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED

RE: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Randal, Phil
al Network Engineer Herefordshire Council Hereford, UK > -Original Message- > From: Philip Prindeville [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 22 March 2006 16:10 > To: users@spamassassin.apache.org > Subject: Re: INVALID_DATE > > David Lee wrote: > > >System:

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Craig Morrison
David Lee wrote: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 06 12:00:00 GMT Standard Time [snip.] The main addressable issue here seems to be the "INVALID_DATE". The "Date:" supplied by Mmail does not have a simple timezone (e.g. expect "GMT"), but rather "GMT Standard Time"

Re: INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread Philip Prindeville
t;[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>X-OriginalArrivalTime: 22 Mar 2006 12:00:00.0046 (UTC) >>FILETIME=[253124E0:01C64DA8] >>X-DurhamAcUk-MailScanner: Found to be clean >>X-DurhamAcUk-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=6.804, >>required 6, BAYES_40 -

INVALID_DATE

2006-03-22 Thread David Lee
00.0046 (UTC) > FILETIME=[253124E0:01C64DA8] > X-DurhamAcUk-MailScanner: Found to be clean > X-DurhamAcUk-MailScanner-SpamCheck: spam, SpamAssassin (score=6.804, > required 6, BAYES_40 -0.18, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS 2.53, > FROM_LOCAL_HEX 1.30, INVALID_DATE 2.19, NO_REAL_NAM