Re: Hashcash not working

2015-08-01 Thread Bill Cole
On 31 Jul 2015, at 13:23, Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 31, 2015 4:51:02 PM CEST, Bill Cole wrote: John Levine wrote a definitive debunking of e-postage schemes including hashcash over a decade ago (http://www.taugh.com/epostage.pdf) and published an update (substantively unchanged) via Viru

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread David B Funk
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015, RW wrote: On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:47:34 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in the Received headers Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Kris Deugau
Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 31, 2015 9:13:03 PM CEST, RW wrote: >> On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 >> Christian Jaeger wrote: >> >>> On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW >>> wrote: SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are several headers that could contain

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 9:13:03 PM CEST, RW wrote: > On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 > Christian Jaeger wrote: > > > On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW > > wrote: > > > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > > > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On 31 Jul 2015 17:57:28 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW > wrote: > > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it would > > need to be configured, so still wouldn't work by

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 4:51:02 PM CEST, Bill Cole wrote: > John Levine wrote a definitive debunking of e-postage schemes > including > hashcash over a decade ago (http://www.taugh.com/epostage.pdf) and > published an update (substantively unchanged) via Virus Bulletin in > 2009 > (https://www.virusb

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 31, 2015 4:37:14 PM CEST, RW wrote: > SA usually gets envelope information from headers. Since there are > several headers that could contain the envelope recipient, it would > need to be configured, so still wouldn't work by default. That's why I mentioned RECIPIENT. The MTA knows where

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:47:34 +0200 Reindl Harald wrote: > nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in > the Received headers > > > Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) > by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with SMTP id > 3mjWRW6GLQz1

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Bill Cole
On 31 Jul 2015, at 7:36, Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on by default". I was

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
nevermind, envelope recipient, but that's also easy and contained in the Received headers Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) by mail-gw.thelounge.net (THELOUNGE GATEWAY) with SMTP id 3mjWRW6GLQz1l for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 16:37:43 +0200 (CEST) Am 31.07.2015 um 16:4

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 31.07.2015 um 16:37 schrieb RW: On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:36:21 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me t

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread RW
On Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:36:21 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW > wrote: > > The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you > > need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value > > That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-31 Thread Christian Jaeger
On July 30, 2015 2:40:35 AM CEST, RW wrote: > The plugin is on by default and use_hashcash defaults to 1, but you > need to set hashcash_accept to an appropriate value That's disappointing. For me that barely counts as "on by default". I was thinking that implementing hashcash would help get m

Re: Hashcash not working

2015-07-29 Thread RW
On 29 Jul 2015 20:55:55 +0200 Christian Jaeger wrote: > Hi > > I've implemented (or at least so I thought) Hashcash for my outgoing > mail (in a Perl wrapper around qmail-remote that I already had to do > DKIM), using the `hashcash` tool as provided by Debian, using the > `-X` command-line option

Hashcash not working

2015-07-29 Thread Christian Jaeger
Hi I've implemented (or at least so I thought) Hashcash for my outgoing mail (in a Perl wrapper around qmail-remote that I already had to do DKIM), using the `hashcash` tool as provided by Debian, using the `-X` command-line option. This tool returns multi-line headers if the email address the