Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-10 Thread corpus.defero
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:18 +, Cedric Knight wrote: > I noticed some bad false positives on email sent... > > Received: from 94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net > (94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net [94.229.160.4]) ukfast == firewall on site. IME a major source of little more than spam in the UK. Th

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-10 Thread Anthony Cartmell
Anyway, why are *web* servers sending out mail at all? My web servers are sending out mail all the time. From website contact forms, Forum notifications, pothole reports to local authorities, as well as sysadmin messages. In fact I'd be more surprised to find web servers *not* sending out

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 14:43 -0800, John Hardin wrote: It appears that a client can easily set up hosting using cPanel or something without ever setting the rDNS or hostname to anything other than the numeric default. Is there anything in the head

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 09 dec 2010 21:30:39 CET, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote Received: from 94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net (94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net [94.229.160.4]) Looks like a dynamic hostname indeed. but static ip range according to http://www.db.ripe.net/whois?form_type=simple&full_query_string=&se

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Cedric Knight
On 09/12/10 22:43, John Hardin wrote: > On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Cedric Knight wrote: > >> It appears that a client can easily set up hosting using cPanel or >> something without ever setting the rDNS or hostname to anything other >> than the numeric default. > > Is there anything in the headers that in

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread David B Funk
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 14:43 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > > > It appears that a client can easily set up hosting using cPanel or > > > something without ever setting the rDNS or hostname to anything other > > > than the numeric default. > > > > Is the

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 14:43 -0800, John Hardin wrote: > > It appears that a client can easily set up hosting using cPanel or > > something without ever setting the rDNS or hostname to anything other > > than the numeric default. > > Is there anything in the headers that indicates cpanel is in us

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 23:02 +0100, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > Ah, so they are operational, just poorly configured. That's what you > > just said in other words, right? :) > > > > Anyway, why are *web* servers sending out mail at all? Other than maybe > > cron junk and friends, which would w

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 9 Dec 2010, Cedric Knight wrote: It appears that a client can easily set up hosting using cPanel or something without ever setting the rDNS or hostname to anything other than the numeric default. Is there anything in the headers that indicates cpanel is in use? Perhaps a meta on cpan

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 21:59 +, Cedric Knight wrote: > On 09/12/10 20:30, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Anyway, why are *web* servers sending out mail at all? Other than maybe > > cron junk and friends, which would warrant bypassing SA or extending > > your internal network. If they are indeed

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:18 +, Cedric Knight wrote: > > I noticed some bad false positives on email sent from certain web > > servers that haven't (yet) been properly configured. For example, a > > trusted header line starting: > > Ah, so they are operational, just poorly configured. That's

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Cedric Knight
On 09/12/10 20:30, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:18 +, Cedric Knight wrote: >> I noticed some bad false positives on email sent from certain web >> servers that haven't (yet) been properly configured. For example, a >> trusted header line starting: > > Ah, so they are o

Re: HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-12-09 at 20:18 +, Cedric Knight wrote: > I noticed some bad false positives on email sent from certain web > servers that haven't (yet) been properly configured. For example, a > trusted header line starting: Ah, so they are operational, just poorly configured. That's what you ju

HELO_DYNAMIC false positives on a UK web host

2010-12-09 Thread Cedric Knight
I noticed some bad false positives on email sent from certain web servers that haven't (yet) been properly configured. For example, a trusted header line starting: Received: from 94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net (94.229.160.4.srvlist.ukfast.net [94.229.160.4]) looks to SpamAssassin like the dynam