Re: Header of a false negative mail

2008-03-28 Thread Sn!per
Quoting Matt Kettler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Can you tell us a bit about your setup? I am no sysadmin. But I will try anyway. > How do you integrate SA into your mail chain? Procmail? I am using qmail-ldap and SA is integrated into the mail chain with maildrop. For that particular mail that w

Re: Header of a false negative mail

2008-03-27 Thread Matt Kettler
Sn!per wrote: I would appreciate if folks can explain to me about the header of a false negative email that I received: ... ... Reply-To: Gene Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: vPharmacy Big Saving, the very be

Header of a false negative mail

2008-03-27 Thread Sn!per
I would appreciate if folks can explain to me about the header of a false negative email that I received: ... ... Reply-To: Gene Blackwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: vPharmacy Big Saving, the very best generic me

RE: Too false negative

2008-02-28 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> --[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: > > policyd works a treat :) V2 is also in development aswell. > > > > it's not the same. I don't know why they call it V2. > As far as I know, Cami is no more involved. so I would stick > with the "current" (which is a single C threaded program). So you still prefer po

RE: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> policyd works a treat :) V2 is also in development aswell. I will take in account your judge.. :-) rocsca

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread mouss
--[ UxBoD ]-- wrote: policyd works a treat :) V2 is also in development aswell. it's not the same. I don't know why they call it V2. As far as I know, Cami is no more involved. so I would stick with the "current" (which is a single C threaded program).

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread --[ UxBoD ]--
policyd works a treat :) V2 is also in development aswell. Regards, -- --[ UxBoD ]-- // PGP Key: "curl -s http://www.splatnix.net/uxbod.asc | gpg --import" // Fingerprint: F57A 0CBD DD19 79E9 1FCC A612 CB36 D89D 2C5A 3A84 // Keyserver: www.keyserver.net Key-ID: 0x2C5A3A84 // Phone: +44 845 869 2

RE: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > What do I need to set up GL? Only the command below or there is > > something other parameter that I could set up (eg: the time spent > > before a message is accepted and so on)? > > > > > > of course, you need to install a policy server! Cami's > policyd is a good choice (it also has ot

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread mouss
Rocco Scappatura wrote: And spammer are becoming more faster as the time goes on.. Is it convenient to use gray listing newer bots retry, so GL is only effective is the time interval is large enough, but that's not a neutral thing so should be restricted to suspicious mail. That's what I

RE: Too false negative

2008-02-27 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > And spammer are becoming more faster as the time goes on.. Is it > > convenient to use gray listing > > newer bots retry, so GL is only effective is the time > interval is large enough, but that's not a neutral thing so > should be restricted to suspicious mail. That's what I use GL > for

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread mouss
.. Is it convenient to use gray listing newer bots retry, so GL is only effective is the time interval is large enough, but that's not a neutral thing so should be restricted to suspicious mail. That's what I use GL for anyway. or there is something other effective tecnique that I co

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2008-02-26 at 23:14 +0100, Rocco Scappatura wrote: > And spammer are becoming more faster as the time goes on.. Is it > convenient to use gray listing or there is something other effective > tecnique that I could use to reduce false negative? Grey-listing helps, but seldom be

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread Rocco Scappatura
e faster as the time goes on.. Is it convenient to use gray listing or there is something other effective tecnique that I could use to reduce false negative? Thanks, rocsca

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread mouss
Rocco Scappatura wrote: Rocco Scappatura wrote: [snip] Sorry It was not the case to send the entire email.. Here the X-Spam-Status after running the message against 'spamassassin -D': X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RATWARE_MS_H

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> Rocco Scappatura wrote: >>> [snip] >> >> Sorry It was not the case to send the entire email.. Here the >> X-Spam-Status after running the message against 'spamassassin -D': >> >> X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.2 required=5.0 >> tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, >> >> RATWARE_MS_HASH,RATWARE_OUTL

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread mouss
Rocco Scappatura wrote: [snip] Sorry It was not the case to send the entire email.. Here the X-Spam-Status after running the message against 'spamassassin -D': X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=11.2 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_MESSAGE, RATWARE_MS_HASH,RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME,RDNS_NONE,URIBL

RE: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > Since some days the number of SMTP connections rejected by > my server > > is increased (maybe doubled). It doesn't worry me. But > there is a side > > effect because even the number of false negative is increased. > > > > For example, at the

Re: Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread Matt Kettler
Rocco Scappatura wrote: Hello, Since some days the number of SMTP connections rejected by my server is increased (maybe doubled). It doesn't worry me. But there is a side effect because even the number of false negative is increased. For example, at the moment a spam message with this h

Too false negative

2008-02-26 Thread Rocco Scappatura
Hello, Since some days the number of SMTP connections rejected by my server is increased (maybe doubled). It doesn't worry me. But there is a side effect because even the number of false negative is increased. For example, at the moment a spam message with this header is considered cle

Re: False negative

2007-08-27 Thread OliverScott
reduced the amount you will catch) but will hopefully be enough to let emails like this through as long as they don't hit any other rules. I would suggest NOT using the BOTNET pluggin as it will probably make the problem worse! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/False-neg

False negative

2007-08-27 Thread FaberK
Hi to all, I have a guest, that use an ADSL with Dynamic IP and is always spammed by my spamassassin. The guest is on my same domain. I receive normally only if I put that address into whitelist. I tried also, to give some ham including that address, but nothing change. Always spammed as follow: -

Re: False negative problem

2007-05-16 Thread Matt Kettler
Cedric BUSCHINI wrote: > Hello everyone, > > I m running through a problem generating false negatives : > I m getting e-mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on > srvmail.carax.com > X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, scor

Re: False negative problem

2007-05-16 Thread Duncan Hill
On Wed, May 16, 2007 11:02, Cedric BUSCHINI wrote: > Hello everyone, > > > I m running through a problem generating false negatives : > I m getting e-mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is in the whitelist using whitelist_from in > local.cf . > > How can I

False negative problem

2007-05-16 Thread Cedric BUSCHINI
Hello everyone, I m running through a problem generating false negatives : I m getting e-mails sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] from [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.4 (2006-07-25) on srvmail.carax.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-93.1 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-19 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > Do I have to set it to 0? > > No, but that may explain why the two servers have different > Bayes scores for similar messages. If they receive different > message streams they will be learning a different view of the > email world. OK. Thanks all clear for me!! > > But Then how I have to

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-19 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, Rocco Scappatura wrote: what it can be the reason of the different score assigned? why the second system doesn't assign an AWL score? They give different Bayes scores so the Bayes databases have been trained with different messages. Do you have autolearn switched on? # Bayesian classi

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-19 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > what it can be the reason of the different score assigned? > > why the second system doesn't assign an AWL score? > > They give different Bayes scores so the Bayes databases have > been trained with different messages. Do you have autolearn > switched on? # Bayesian classifier auto-learn

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-15 Thread Anthony Peacock
Rocco Scappatura wrote: So you are saying that I have to train SA? That would be how you would improve your Bayes accuracy, yes. I have trained SA on my server but I still get a score lower than 5.0.. Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name descript

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Chris
On Wednesday 14 March 2007 5:49 am, Rocco Scappatura wrote: > > If you can post the full email (headers and body), I'll run it over my > > system which has lots and lots of third party add on rules from > > www.rulesemporium.com and others and see if I can make SA > > score it high > > enough for A

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > So you are saying that I have to train SA? > > That would be how you would improve your Bayes accuracy, yes. I have trained SA on my server but I still get a score lower than 5.0.. Content analysis details: (4.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Anthony Peacock
Rocco Scappatura wrote: Assuming this is your score line: > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 > tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_30_40, > HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 > autolearn=no version=3.1.8 Then the biggest difference is that my Bayes

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> Assuming this is your score line: > > > X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.5 required=5.0 > > tests=AWL,BAYES_50,HTML_30_40, > > HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TEXT_AFTER_BODY,MIME_HTML_ONLY,SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 > > autolearn=no version=3.1.8 > > Then the biggest difference is that my Bayesian scoring

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, Rocco Scappatura wrote: I get the following: Content analysis details: (5.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description -- -- 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO 1.7 SA

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> > Content analysis details: (5.7 points, 5.0 required) > > > > pts rule name description > > -- > > -- > > 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO > > 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK_SYM3 BODY

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> I get the following: > > Content analysis details: (5.7 points, 5.0 required) > > pts rule name description > -- > -- > 0.1 FORGED_RCVD_HELO Received: contains a forged HELO > 1.7 SARE_PROLOSTOCK

Re: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Anthony Peacock
Hi, Rocco Scappatura wrote: http://www.rocsca.it/INBOX Could someone give me an hint on how to block email like the one above? Thanks, rocsca I get the following: Content analysis details: (5.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description --

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> http://www.rocsca.it/INBOX Could someone give me an hint on how to block email like the one above? Thanks, rocsca > I get the following score: > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Mar 14 07:13:02 2007 > Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on a

RE: Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
> If you can post the full email (headers and body), I'll run it over my > system which has lots and lots of third party add on rules from > www.rulesemporium.com and others and see if I can make SA > score it high > enough for Amavisd-new to block the email.. Thanks. http://www.rocsca.it/INBOX

Another false negative

2007-03-14 Thread Rocco Scappatura
Hello, SA have not blocked an email with this headers: Microsoft Mail Internet Headers Version 2.0 Received: from posta.sttspa.it ([80.74.176.144]) by srv5.stt.loc with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Wed, 14 Mar 2007 07:14:08 +0100 Received: by posta.sttspa.it (Postfix, from userid 7

Re: SpmAssn 3.04 v. 2.6x false negative rate: Help???

2005-09-16 Thread Loren Wilton
If you are only correctly classifying 50% of the spam (you said 100 caught to 100 missed, I htink) then you have SERIOUS problems of some sort. As a happy 2.63 user that upgraded to 3.04, it too a little minor fiddling, but by and large things are *much* better now, and they were good before. I u

SpmAssn 3.04 v. 2.6x false negative rate: Help???

2005-09-15 Thread Linda Walsh
Ever since I "upgraded" to the 3.x series I've had a major jump in spams that are getting through. Initially my upgrade was to 3.02 as distributed in SuSE 9.3 and my problems were related to old configuration files/options where NONE of my spam was being tagged into the spam folder (i.e. the SPA

Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative

2005-01-05 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:10 PM 1/5/2005, Rainer Sokoll wrote: > If the lockfile exists, some SA process is currently writing the DB, and > autolearning cannot occur. Since autolearning isn't a critical operation, > SA skips autolearning, Does this trigger "autolearn=unavailable", which I see from time to time in the

Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative

2005-01-05 Thread Rainer Sokoll
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 02:39:57PM -0500, Matt Kettler wrote: > If the lockfile exists, some SA process is currently writing the DB, and > autolearning cannot occur. Since autolearning isn't a critical operation, > SA skips autolearning, Does this trigger "autolearn=unavailable", which I see fr

Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative

2005-01-05 Thread Michael Parker
On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:20:35PM +, Quinn Comendant wrote: > Oh boy do I need some help. > > I've got SpamAssassin 3.0.2 running on a RedHat 7.2 system with sendmail, > configured sitewide to use bayes and auto-whitelist. local.cf is as follows: > Interesting that you think you are running

Re: USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative

2005-01-05 Thread Matt Kettler
r process to finish with the database. Other processes, like manual calls of sa-learn, will intentionaly wait for the lock to free up, but autolearning won't. Final question: is the USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative related to the auto-learn=failed? No, that's bayes autolearning, and it means it got skipped due to lock contention.

USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative

2005-01-05 Thread Quinn Comendant
unning SpamAssassin in a different user mode? Root only? Should I migrate to MySQL? Final question: is the USER_IN_WHITELIST false negative related to the auto-learn=failed? Thanks! Quinn