On Sat, 2016-09-24 at 00:15 -0500, Dave Funk wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> >
> > On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 19:03 -0400, listsb-spamassas...@bitrate.net
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > consider that, to do the work described as "forwarding" in many of
> > > these references, the nam
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 19:03 -0400, listsb-spamassas...@bitrate.net
wrote:
consider that, to do the work described as "forwarding" in many of
these references, the nameserver must perform a recursive query [e.g.
it must perform a query with the rd bit
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 19:03 -0400, listsb-spamassas...@bitrate.net
wrote:
> consider that, to do the work described as "forwarding" in many of
> these references, the nameserver must perform a recursive query [e.g.
> it must perform a query with the rd bit set].
"A forwarding DNS server offers the
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 17:10 -0400, btb wrote:
> > http://serverfault.com/questions/661821/what-s-the-difference-betwe
> en-recursion-and-forwarding-in-bind
>
> this is bad information. it's unfortunate it has a green check mark
> next to it. at least it only has a 6 though.
So why is this bad
> On Sep 23, 2016, at 17.34, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 17:10 -0400, btb wrote:
>> On 2016.09.23 16.16, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 18:43 +0100, RW wrote:
Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
recursiv
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 17:10 -0400, btb wrote:
> On 2016.09.23 16.16, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 18:43 +0100, RW wrote:
> > >
> > > Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
> > > recursive server? Why is the use of iteration the defining featur
On 2016.09.23 16.16, Lindsay Haisley wrote:
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 18:43 +0100, RW wrote:
Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
recursive server? Why is the use of iteration the defining feature of
a recursive server and not the support for recursion.
http://serve
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 18:43 +0100, RW wrote:
> Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
> recursive server? Why is the use of iteration the defining feature of
> a recursive server and not the support for recursion.
http://serverfault.com/questions/661821/what-s-the-dif
Lindsay Haisley writes:
> Huh? So what's the problem with "recursion"? That's the name of the
> boolean configuration option in bind9. It's about as descriptive and
> clear a word as it can be.
>
> options {
> directory "/var/cache/bind";
> recursion yes;
> allow-query {
On Fri, 2016-09-23 at 21:25 +0200, Axb wrote:
> On 09/23/2016 09:11 PM, RW wrote:
> >
> > Whatever the right and wrongs of this I think the term recursive is
> > best avoided in this list. "Non-forwarding" is a lot clearer IMO.
> Can we agree to:
> "servers running SA should use a local non forwar
On 09/23/2016 09:11 PM, RW wrote:
Whatever the right and wrongs of this I think the term recursive is
best avoided in this list. "Non-forwarding" is a lot clearer IMO.
Can we agree to:
"servers running SA should use a local non forwarding resolver".
That should rule out dnsmasq.
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 14:12:30 -0400
Bill Cole wrote:
> I have never seen the word "iterative" used to describe DNS recursion
> or any other DNS resolution algorithm except in the context of a
> resolver having multiple servers that it can query at a particular
> step of the resolution process
It
Huh, why are people getting hung up on this?
The distinction is based on who the DNS server will consult to provide
a response to a question.
An authoritative server consults its local authoritative zone
database. It may or may not be willing to consult someone else for
questions not in its data
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, RW wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:57:54 +
Shawn Bakhtiar wrote:
Recursive server does lookups iteratively.
Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
recursive server?
It may or may not be, see "forward first". I DNS server may do both.
W
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016, RW wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
Lists shouldn't have said "caching", that confuses the issue. Caching
and recursion are two different, unrelated pieces.
Focus on the "recursion" and "no forwarding" parts of that
recommendation.
I'v
On 2016.09.23 12.03, RW wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
Lists shouldn't have said "caching", that confuses the issue. Caching
and recursion are two different, unrelated pieces.
Focus on the "recursion" and "no forwarding" parts of that
recommendation.
I've
On 23 Sep 2016, at 13:43, RW wrote:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:57:54 +
Shawn Bakhtiar wrote:
Recursive server does lookups iteratively.
Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
recursive server?
Because a forward-only DNS server does not resolve queries by way o
Am 23.09.2016 um 19:57 schrieb RW:
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:13:19 -0400
Sean Greenslade wrote:
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:03:00PM +0100, RW wrote:
I've been wondering whether recursive is actually the correct term.
As I understand it there are two types of DNS lookup:
1. Iterative - where
On 23 Sep 2016, at 12:03, RW wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
Lists shouldn't have said "caching", that confuses the issue. Caching
and recursion are two different, unrelated pieces.
Focus on the "recursion" and "no forwarding" parts of that
recommendation.
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:13:19 -0400
Sean Greenslade wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:03:00PM +0100, RW wrote:
> > I've been wondering whether recursive is actually the correct term.
> >
> > As I understand it there are two types of DNS lookup:
> >
> > 1. Iterative - where results are found b
On Fri, 23 Sep 2016 16:57:54 +
Shawn Bakhtiar wrote:
> Recursive server does lookups iteratively.
Right, but the question here is why isn't a forwarding server also a
recursive server? Why is the use of iteration the defining feature of
a recursive server and not the support for recursion.
On Fri, Sep 23, 2016 at 05:03:00PM +0100, RW wrote:
> I've been wondering whether recursive is actually the correct term.
>
> As I understand it there are two types of DNS lookup:
>
> 1. Iterative - where results are found by working down through
> multiple servers from the root servers.
>
>
A forwarding name server simply forwards (proxies) the query to an upstream
recursive server.
On Sep 23, 2016, at 9:03 AM, RW
mailto:rwmailli...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
Lists shouldn't have said "caching", that confuses the issue. C
On Thu, 22 Sep 2016 20:24:21 -0700 (PDT)
John Hardin wrote:
> Lists shouldn't have said "caching", that confuses the issue. Caching
> and recursion are two different, unrelated pieces.
>
> Focus on the "recursion" and "no forwarding" parts of that
> recommendation.
I've been wondering whether r
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