Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 19:08:12 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > RW skrev den 2013-08-01 18:00: > > > If you use /32 and the sender has a different IP address each time > > there's no score averaging. > > servers changeing sender ip daily ?, its not a real problem clients > does, there would be one

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
RW skrev den 2013-08-01 18:00: If you use /32 and the sender has a different IP address each time there's no score averaging. servers changeing sender ip daily ?, its not a real problem clients does, there would be one static ip first

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 16:36:22 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > RW skrev den 2013-08-01 14:39: > > > This would make sense if the IP address were the the first trusted > > address or last external, but AWL uses the first routable address > > which > > is commonly dynamic. > > why is this in error ?

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
RW skrev den 2013-08-01 14:39: This would make sense if the IP address were the the first trusted address or last external, but AWL uses the first routable address which is commonly dynamic. why is this in error ?

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread RW
On Thu, 01 Aug 2013 12:34:26 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > Jari Fredriksson skrev den 2013-07-31 22:04: > > AWL plugin does it anyway, if enabled. But it does not use any > > external > > backlists for it... > > if its runs with default /16 is just a joke > > change it to /24 or /32 then its m

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread Franck Martin
On Aug 1, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Franck Martin skrev den 2013-07-31 23:06: > >> Now as we move to IPv6, reputation will shift from an IP based type >> reputation, to a domain based type reputation. Unfortunately, spam >> assassin seems to be lacking some rules. > > still mi

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
Franck Martin skrev den 2013-07-31 23:06: Why would they use a forged domain which is on a blacklist? I think they would tend to use a domain which is well known with good reputation. As well known domains are getting protected, then they have to move to use their own domain, which happens to ap

Re: Creating new rules

2013-08-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jari Fredriksson skrev den 2013-07-31 22:04: 31.07.2013 21:05, Franck Martin kirjoitti: Ah yes, I saw these rules, but this is to check the domains of urls in the messages, not to check for instance that the domain used in the From: header is on the DBL. Address in From: is usually always forge

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Franck Martin
On Jul 31, 2013, at 11:19 PM, RGB Camera mailto:zauschne...@gmail.com>> wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Franck Martin mailto:fmar...@linkedin.com>> wrote: On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Kevin Miller mailto:kevin_mil...@ci.juneau.ak.us>> wrote: > Problem is, the from adddress is oft

RE: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Kevin Miller
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 1:06 PM To: Kevin Miller Cc: Ralf Hildebrandt; Subject: Re: Creating new rules On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Problem is, the from adddress is often a "Joe job" - i.e., a forged address, > so the domain mentioned there li

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread RGB Camera
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Franck Martin wrote: > > On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Kevin Miller > wrote: > > > Problem is, the from adddress is often a "Joe job" - i.e., a forged > address, so the domain mentioned there likely doesn't have anything to do > with the actual source of the mail

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Franck Martin
On Jul 31, 2013, at 10:08 PM, Kevin Miller wrote: > Problem is, the from adddress is often a "Joe job" - i.e., a forged address, > so the domain mentioned there likely doesn't have anything to do with the > actual source of the mail. It seems to me that if the domain isn't the > actual sourc

RE: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Kevin Miller
o be filtering on it, particularly if Bayes is learning from it or your MTA auto-reports it to RBLs. YMMV... ...Kevin From: Franck Martin [fmar...@linkedin.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:05 AM To: Ralf Hildebrandt Cc: Subject: Re: Creating new rules

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Jari Fredriksson
31.07.2013 21:05, Franck Martin kirjoitti: > Ah yes, I saw these rules, but this is to check the domains of urls in the > messages, not to check for instance that the domain used in the From: header > is on the DBL. Address in From: is usually always forged in Spam nowadays. There is not much use

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Jari Fredriksson
31.07.2013 21:05, Franck Martin kirjoitti: > On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt > wrote: > >> * Franck Martin : >> >>> I looked at http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_3_x.html could not find >>> any rule that do the above. Please help. >> That's a bit odd. I found it being mentione

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Franck Martin
On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:56 PM, Ralf Hildebrandt wrote: > * Franck Martin : > >> I looked at http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_3_x.html could not find >> any rule that do the above. Please help. > > That's a bit odd. I found it being mentioned here: > > http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Franck Martin : > I looked at http://spamassassin.apache.org/tests_3_3_x.html could not find > any rule that do the above. Please help. That's a bit odd. I found it being mentioned here: http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/Spamhaus%20DBL#287 http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/enabling-

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Franck Martin
On Jul 31, 2013, at 7:43 PM, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > 31.07.2013 20:08, Franck Martin kirjoitti: >> Hi all, >> >> I noticed there is no rules to check if the domain in various emails fields >> are on blocking lists like DBL at spamhaus. I'm willing to work on some of >> these rules, but I wo

Re: Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Jari Fredriksson
31.07.2013 20:08, Franck Martin kirjoitti: > Hi all, > > I noticed there is no rules to check if the domain in various emails fields > are on blocking lists like DBL at spamhaus. I'm willing to work on some of > these rules, but I would appreciate any advice to bootstrap the process. If > you ca

Creating new rules

2013-07-31 Thread Franck Martin
Hi all, I noticed there is no rules to check if the domain in various emails fields are on blocking lists like DBL at spamhaus. I'm willing to work on some of these rules, but I would appreciate any advice to bootstrap the process. If you can reference documents or say something like, look at t

Re: Creating new rules

2011-05-07 Thread Benny Pedersen
All the emails have a common pattern (HTML_LINK + JUNK_TEXT): meta on info tld && !user_in_whitelist_from_spf train bayes, adjust autolearnthreshold to less then default -0.2 why have none devs maked a policyd that make sure sender is known to the recipient ?, (i got a new email address blocki

Re: Creating new rules

2011-05-07 Thread Ned Slider
On 07/05/11 19:38, Andrea Gozzi wrote: Hi guys. I need some help in setting up effective rules to counter a spam wave that has been hitting my server lately. Most of the messages come from hotmail.com accounts and for obvious reasons I can't block the whole domain. All the emails have a common pa

Creating new rules

2011-05-07 Thread Andrea Gozzi
Hi guys. I need some help in setting up effective rules to counter a spam wave that has been hitting my server lately. Most of the messages come from hotmail.com accounts and for obvious reasons I can't block the whole domain. All the emails have a common pattern (HTML_LINK + JUNK_TEXT): http://pa