Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-13 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
Yay, a long-ish post. But I believe it's worth it. On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 13:14 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: > Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > The problem is with the design itself. Only the real sender can and will > > confirm. The challenge to the *forged* sender of spam will not be > >

RE: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread RobertH
digital toast... if you have a good system, them implement it for real with real email addresses and reject all the fake (not valid) email addresses to streamline, use a database of some sort if you have to anything you do after that will at least follow more proper design flow... isnt using a

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 14:21, digitaltoast wrote: LuKreme wrote: Seriously, I've had family members who twaddled about with PYLM crap and they simply stopped getting my emails until they learned. Lucky them... Ah, you're one of THOSE. *plonk* -- These are the thoughts that kept me out of th

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread LuKreme
On 12-May-2009, at 14:14, digitaltoast wrote: often technical lists are full of people who spend their time doing weird things like trying to make their emails appear as attachments for anyone not using Elm via emacs, in the bizarre belief that: Oddly, I've been reading mail for over 20 yea

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread digitaltoast
LuKreme wrote: > Seriously, I've had family members who twaddled about with PYLM crap > and they simply stopped getting my emails until they learned. Lucky them... -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Boxtrapper-and-Spamassassin-Cpanel-11-strang

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-12 Thread digitaltoast
e real hints about the > challenge response sender-verification pest, and why it is BAD. > > Please, do NOT use challenge response sender-verification, do NOT use > boxtrapper. I can tell you're hinting at something...just say what you mean :) Anyway, thanks for the help on thi

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 12:25 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 11-May-2009, at 12:15, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: [ OP and challenge response question goes here ] > > The problem is with the design itself. Only the real sender can and will > > confirm. > > Only the real sender CAN confirm, but the real

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread Theo Van Dinter
fwiw, I also confirm any CR mails that I get. I just wanted to paste in this quote... :) "challenge response is a great way to tell people they are less important than you" - Dan Quinlan via IRC On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Dave Pooser wrote: > Not necessarily true-- anytime I see o

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread Dave Pooser
> The problem is with the design itself. Only the real sender can and will > confirm. The challenge to the *forged* sender of spam will not be > responded to. Not necessarily true-- anytime I see one of those challenges to a (forged sender) address I control I'll click the confirmation link just t

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread LuKreme
On 11-May-2009, at 12:15, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: The problem is with the design itself. Only the real sender can and will confirm. Only the real sender CAN confirm, but the real sender is UNLIKELY to confirm. I have -=never=- confirmed for a Prove-You-Love-Me email. Never have, neve

Re: Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Mon, 2009-05-11 at 06:56 -0700, an anonymous Nabble user wrote: > THE PROBLEM: I'm signed up to over 300 forums, shops, sites etc, so there's > no way I could make an email address box for all of those "pseudoaddresses", > as it were. So I can't turn the catchall off. Sure can, why not? Just al

Boxtrapper and Spamassassin Cpanel 11 strange behaviour.

2009-05-11 Thread digitaltoast
- help appreciated, but mainly on the first problem. Thanks, and apology for the length of this, but over the 1.5 months I've been battling this, I've built up quite some info! -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Boxtrapper-and-Spamassassin-Cpanel-11-strange-behaviour.-tp23483808p23483808.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.