Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread franc
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Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread Dominic Benson
On 17/09/10 11:21, franc wrote: In that case, uninstalling Spamassassin from Apt (and then doing an apt-get --autoremove to clear out Perl libs installed through apt/dpkg) and re-installing with CPAN should be fine, and you'll be able to keep it up to date. I use aptitude, is this the

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread Sergios T.S.(aka linuxman)
στις 17/09/2010 12:55 μμ, O/H Dominic Benson έγραψε: On 17/09/10 10:42, franc wrote: I doubt if this is possible on a VPS. At least the kernel is not changeable because coming from the host and is old enough (2.6.9). I guess an update to Lucid Lynx (10.04) will be if not unpossible but problem

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread franc
ll this uninstall all Perl? Because i need this for other things. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29736988.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread Dominic Benson
On 17/09/10 10:42, franc wrote: I doubt if this is possible on a VPS. At least the kernel is not changeable because coming from the host and is old enough (2.6.9). I guess an update to Lucid Lynx (10.04) will be if not unpossible but problematic. So if i use CPAN and keep my Hardy Heron, there w

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread franc
i use CPAN and keep my Hardy Heron, there won't be problems or yes? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29736736.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread Dominic Benson
This is just what i noticed: there is no Ubuntu package update after the 3.2.4-ubu1 related to: http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/spamassassin But how then to update? Can i use a package for Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) or is this the absolute wrong way? If you add hardy-backports to your a

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-17 Thread franc
nts . I will update with cpan, leaving this not maintained hardy installation of sa. If i could update ubuntu to 10.04 i would do it, but i hardly think that is possible on my vps without big problems to my customers and me.. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-sp

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 23:19:34 CEST, franc wrote OK, i put now till i am sure there is no more FP the threshold on -, 5, 10, 15 so between 5 and 10 it is delivered into the spam-folder, and with 10 it is bounced. rejected please, eg dont accept and bouce -- xpoint http://www.unicom.com/pw/reply-t

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Sergey Tsabolov ( aka linuxman )
Hi , in you sources.list you have 2 lines #deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse #deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ hardy-backports main restricted universe multiverse Uncomment that lines and try to apt-get update && apt-get upgrade

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread franc
t out: # $final_bad_header_destiny = D_PASS; and i think now the bad-header-mails are sent to the postbox and not to the orkus. i hope. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29733698.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 15:10 -0700, franc wrote: > > I seriously hope you just mis-worded that. Bounce!? That would be after > > *accepting* a message, and with spam generally will be bounced to a > > forged, innocent bystander -- not the spammer. So please, tell me you > > actually meant to say REJ

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread franc
sed this. But you are very right, the bounce is old (according to the Postfixbook from heinlein) and i put reject now. Thanks again! -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29733474.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 14:19 -0700, franc wrote: > OK, i put now till i am sure there is no more FP the threshold on -, 5, 10, > 15 so between 5 and 10 it is delivered into the spam-folder, and with 10 it > is bounced. > > I think after a while i will know if i can put 2,5,6.31,10 or something like

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread franc
in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29733116.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 20:37:07 CEST, franc wrote yes, spamassassin is the only thing to upgrade at the moment. I am running Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) and i installed spamassassin with aptitude. then i will suggest to try here https://launchpad.net/hardy-backports make a request for upgrade a

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 11:32 -0700, franc wrote: > > ... Do you train *both*, spam *and* ham? Any chance these > > have been trained incorrectly before? What Bayes score do they actually > > get? The X-Spam-Status header would be sufficient to see. > > > > The few lines of 'sa-learn --dump magic' w

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
-) But anyway, i didn't put an "i" to the rule, so only "Chronometer" will fit. And i just add 5 to the sa-score. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29731807.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
i installed spamassassin with aptitude. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29731696.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread franc
ils are directly put to the Spam-folder, so with IMAP, the user can still look at them. Anyway, do you think i need to update to 3.3.x or is 3.2 still OK? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29731650.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Identifying the real problem (was: Re: Blacklist for spam-words)

2010-09-16 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2010-09-16 at 03:26 -0700, Franc Walter(?) wrote: > > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes works, and > > all the available SA plugins. > > I trained SA since months with all those chronometer-zeitmesser-spam and > only 5% is now set to spam. > I want to get rid

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 18:08:46 CEST, franc wrote http://packages.ubuntu.com/de/hardy/spamassassin But how then to update? Can i use a package for Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) or is this the absolute wrong way? ask a ubuntu maintainer, make a request for this in lunchpad seems to me next step if yo

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 17:47:12 CEST, franc wrote But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole with lists of poison-pill words (and deal with the FPs that result), you should try upgrading to the latest release. I would like to update spamassassin, but how? 42, na not this time, tell more on h

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 17:41:05 CEST, John Hardin wrote that result), you should try upgrading to the latest release. 3.2.4 is several years stale and is not getting any rule updates. Its performance _will_ deteriorate over time as the nature of spam changes. agree, but if the host os still h

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Benny Pedersen
On tor 16 sep 2010 13:59:39 CEST, Giampaolo Tomassoni wrote want to get rid of it immediately. Well, you may try putting this into /etc/spamassassin/local.cf, then: describe FORBWORDS Matches some forbidden words (dangerous) body __FORBWORDS /\W(?:viagra|chronometer|zeitmesser)/i

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
use a package for Ubuntu Maverick (10.10) or is this the absolute wrong way? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29730146.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote: But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole with lists of poison-pill words (and deal with the FPs that result), you should try upgrading to the latest release. I would like to update spamassassin, but how? The rule for reliability is "update the way you

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
> But before you go trying to play whack-a-mole > with lists of poison-pill words (and deal with the FPs that result), you > should try upgrading to the latest release. I would like to update spamassassin, but how? -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread John Hardin
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote: i don't know spamassassin not very well, i am using 3.2.4 on Ubuntu 8.04 LTS. I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra", "Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this words, this email should directly put to the

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, franc wrote: I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra", "Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this words, this email should directly put to the "Spam"-folder. Are you sure you want to embark in a project like that and will

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
You're probably too late, Matus: you've got into his trash folder... ;) > From: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:uh...@fantomas.sk] > > > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your > > > chronometer... --^ > > This is very unlikely because i have none. So even if he aske

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your > > chronometer... > > This is very unlikely because i have none. So even if he asked, it were in > vain :-) > > > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes works, and > > all the available SA plugins. On

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> > SA goes farther than your simple idea. Have a look at how Bayes > works, and > > all the available SA plugins. > > I trained SA since months with all those chronometer-zeitmesser-spam > and > only 5% is now set to spam. > I want to get rid of it immediately. Well, you may try putting this int

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Per Jessen
franc wrote: > >> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA >> installation > > Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i > don't find RegExp-sections. body FRANCS_RULE /regexp/ /Per Jessen, Zürich

Re: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 2010-09-16 12:29, franc wrote: You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA installation Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i don't find RegExp-sections. see http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/WritingRules

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA > installation Could you give me an example, or where to find one? In the local.cf i don't find RegExp-sections. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29726801.htm

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
. I trained SA since months with all those chronometer-zeitmesser-spam and only 5% is now set to spam. I want to get rid of it immediately. -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29726779.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Giles Coochey
> You may setup a regexp rule in the /etc/local.cf file of your SA > installation, but a simple rule like the one you suggest may easily yield > FPs (False Positives, ie: non-spam messages may get into your trashcan). > > What if a friend of yours sends you an email asking to lend your > chronomet

RE: Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread Giampaolo Tomassoni
> Hello, > > i don't know spamassassin not very well, i am using 3.2.4 on Ubuntu > 8.04 > LTS. > > I need a textfile where i can put in blacklist-words like "Viagra", > "Chronometer", "Zeitmesser" and so on, if an email has one of this > words, > this email should directly put to the "Spam"-folde

Blacklist for spam-words

2010-09-16 Thread franc
put to the "Spam"-folder. Is this possible? Thank you, Regards, franc -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/Blacklist-for-spam-words-tp29726548p29726548.html Sent from the SpamAssassin - Users mailing list archive at Nabble.com.