Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-12 Thread Greg Troxel
"Amir 'CG' Caspi" writes: > Well, not really true, because of the rising resurgence of spammers using > image-based spam, i.e. the number of words in text/plain or text/html is > very low, and all of the spam content is embedded in a binary attached > image, which uses either regular links or ev

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-10 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 1/10/2014 2:28 AM, Henrik K wrote: On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:14:20PM -0700, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: What's the way that I can inject the bayes-identified tokens (hammy or spammy) into my SA headers, so that I can try to debug what's causing this problem? Manual debug: spamassassin -t -D baye

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread Henrik K
On Thu, Jan 09, 2014 at 08:14:20PM -0700, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > > What's the way that I can inject the bayes-identified tokens (hammy or > spammy) into my SA headers, so that I can try to debug what's causing this > problem? Manual debug: spamassassin -t -D bayes < message | grep bayes: (of co

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
On Thu, January 9, 2014 9:46 pm, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Unfortunately, well, for the scumbags, the shorter it gets, the less > likely it is to be understood. Fallen for. Or even understood to be > actual language. Well, not really true, because of the rising resurgence of spammers using imag

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Thu, 2014-01-09 at 20:14 -0700, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > On Thu, January 9, 2014 6:20 pm, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > > Even the most effective results I have ever seen on a non-personal > > attack is merely getting the Bayes classification to a neutral. And that > > was not a "regular" text to

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
On Thu, January 9, 2014 6:20 pm, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Even the most effective results I have ever seen on a non-personal > attack is merely getting the Bayes classification to a neutral. And that > was not a "regular" text token, but includes mail headers. And a biased > Bayes database towa

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread David F. Skoll
On Fri, 10 Jan 2014 02:20:33 +0100 Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: > Even the most effective results I have ever seen on a non-personal > attack is merely getting the Bayes classification to a neutral. And > that was not a "regular" text token, but includes mail headers. And a > biased Bayes database

Re: Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-09 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2014-01-05 at 01:56 +, Mark Tully wrote: > One pattern of messages which I’ve noticed slip through are those which > have a multipart and have a block of bayes poisoning text in the > text/plain part, with the real spam payload in the text/html part. > What I’m seeing is that the text/

Bayes and multipart messages

2014-01-04 Thread Mark Tully
Hi all, I’m new to SA and I’ve been evaluating how it performs on my inbox. I’m using bayes and I’ve been teaching it for a couple of months now, but I haven’t been seeing the type of success I’d been hoping for. Basically, I’m seeing messages very similar to messages I’ve taught it several tim