On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:05:36AM -0400, Adam Katz wrote:
> Henrik K wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you are implying. BOUNCE_MESSAGE only requires
> > Return-Path: <>, which many non-bounce things use (newsletters,
> > order confirmations etc). So your rule catches all of them. It's
> > been like t
http://www.backscatterer.org/
May help.
Here's another e-mail that got through SpamAssassin:
>
> http://rafb.net/p/cFMnIy61.html
>
> As you can see I've effectively disabled the BAYES_00 rule as it's giving
> false credit to a ton of backscatter crud messages, but is there really a
> way to bloc
Henrik K wrote:
> I'm not sure what you are implying. BOUNCE_MESSAGE only requires
> Return-Path: <>, which many non-bounce things use (newsletters,
> order confirmations etc). So your rule catches all of them. It's
> been like this forever, but I guess people are happy enough with it
> not to fix
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 01:19:20PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote:
> > On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:59:17PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote:
> >> score ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.1 0.1 0.3 0.3 # def: 0.1
> >> score BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 # def: 0.1
> >> score VBOUNCE_MESSAGE
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:59:17PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote:
>> score ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.1 0.1 0.3 0.3 # def: 0.1
>> score BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 # def: 0.1
>> score VBOUNCE_MESSAGE 0.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 # def: 0.1
>>
>> header __VACATION Subj
On 18.05.09 16:21, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote:
> And someone apparently played with cores since:
oh, disregard that one, I've mismatched the scores.
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> Jeremy Morton said:
> > As you can see I've effectively disabled the BAYES_00 rule as it's giving
> > false credit to a ton of backscatter crud messages, but is there really a
> > way to block these kinds of backscatter? Is my Bayesian filtering screwed
> > up? What score does your SA insta
Jeremy Morton said:
> As you can see I've effectively disabled the BAYES_00 rule as it's giving
> false credit to a ton of backscatter crud messages, but is there really a
> way to block these kinds of backscatter? Is my Bayesian filtering screwed
> up? What score does your SA install give fo
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:59:17PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote:
>
> score ANY_BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.1 0.1 0.3 0.3 # def: 0.1
> score BOUNCE_MESSAGE0.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 # def: 0.1
> score VBOUNCE_MESSAGE 0.4 0.5 0.9 1.0 # def: 0.1
>
> header __VACATION Subject
On 15-May-2009, at 16:59, Adam Katz wrote:
Backscatter from misdirected bounces is bulk AND unsolicited.
Backscatter is NOT bulk though.
That means it is spam.
You can define it however you want, but it's still not bulk.
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LuKreme wrote:
> On 15-May-2009, at 12:27, Jeremy Morton wrote:
>> It's unwanted e-mail, so it's pretty close to spam in my book. Just
>> because it's some moron who bounced a message instead of someone
>> explicitly spamming me doesn't make it much better.
>
> But it is NOT spam, which means tha
On 15-May-2009, at 12:27, Jeremy Morton wrote:
It's unwanted e-mail, so it's pretty close to spam in my book. Just
because it's some moron who bounced a message instead of someone
explicitly spamming me doesn't make it much better.
But it is NOT spam, which means that you screwing up the sc
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 19:27 +0100, Jeremy Morton wrote:
> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
> > Backscatter. These types of arbitrarily phrased "I changed my email
> > address" auto-responses are pretty much impossible to catch.
>
> I feared as much.
> > Since BAYES_00 is a strong sign for ham, I would
> Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
>
> It's unwanted e-mail, so it's pretty close to spam in my
> book. Just because it's some moron who bounced a message
> instead of someone explicitly spamming me doesn't make it
> much better.
>
It is unwanted, but would you send a report to the sender's ISP beca
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote:
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 18:45 +0100, Jeremy Morton wrote:
Here's another e-mail that got through SpamAssassin:
http://rafb.net/p/cFMnIy61.html
Backscatter. These types of arbitrarily phrased "I changed my email
address" auto-responses are pretty much impossible to cat
On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 18:45 +0100, Jeremy Morton wrote:
> Here's another e-mail that got through SpamAssassin:
>
> http://rafb.net/p/cFMnIy61.html
Backscatter. These types of arbitrarily phrased "I changed my email
address" auto-responses are pretty much impossible to catch.
> As you can see I'v
Here's another e-mail that got through SpamAssassin:
http://rafb.net/p/cFMnIy61.html
As you can see I've effectively disabled the BAYES_00 rule as it's
giving false credit to a ton of backscatter crud messages, but is there
really a way to block these kinds of backscatter? Is my Bayesian
fil
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