Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-12 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > RW wrote: > > > The much more common scenario is that the first spam hits BAYES_50 > > > and subsequent BAYES_99 hits are countered by a negative AWL score. > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:09:04 -0400 > Matt Kettler wrote: > > Technically, this only counters half the score. It also gets "paid > > b

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:09:04 -0400 Matt Kettler wrote: > RW wrote: > > The much more common scenario is that the first spam hits BAYES_50 > > and subsequent BAYES_99 hits are countered by a negative AWL score. > > > Technically, this only counters half the score. It also gets "paid > back" l

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-10 Thread Matt Kettler
RW wrote: > On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:33:51 +0200 > Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:56:35 -0400 Matt Kettler wrote: > Please be aware the AWL is NOT whitelist, or a blacklist, and > the scores don't really quite work the way they look. The

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-10 Thread RW
On Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:33:51 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:56:35 -0400 > > > Matt Kettler wrote: > > > > Please be aware the AWL is NOT whitelist, or a blacklist, and > > > > the scores don't really quite work the way they look. The AWL is > > > > essentially a

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:56:35 -0400 > > Matt Kettler wrote: > > > Please be aware the AWL is NOT whitelist, or a blacklist, and the > > > scores don't really quite work the way they look. The AWL is > > > essentially an averager, and as such, it's sometimes going to assign > > > negative scores

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, July 4, 2009 20:55, Michelle Konzack wrote: > To prevent manualy learning of the MEDS spams I have set my MEDS-Score > to 8.00 and do not get any spams except "caNN" and "genNN". perldoc Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::AWL see the awl factor setting, default its 0.5, so if you dont like t

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, July 4, 2009 20:50, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Goog evening Jari, > > Am 2009-07-04 13:46:45, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: >> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BetterDocumentation/SqlReadmeAwl > > Thankyou for the link, but if I understand it right, spamassassin is > then using ONE Datab

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-05 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, July 4, 2009 10:20, Michelle Konzack wrote: > ...because the Spamer From: is in the auto_whitelist. aRG :/ from and SENDER IP is in the awl table, where is the problem ? if you match the sender ip very well (/16 fuzzy) then i see the problem and btw awl is NOT a whitelist ! -- xpoin

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 20:55:12 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-07-04 13:12:07, schrieb RW: > > So what happens if you don't remove it, what error do you get when > > you run sa-learn?# > > If I do not remove it beforre "sa-learn --spam", I get an negative > AWL score. > > If I remove it,

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Goog evening Jari, > > Am 2009-07-04 13:46:45, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: >> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BetterDocumentation/SqlReadmeAwl > > Thankyou for the link, but if I understand it right, spamassassin is > then using ONE Database/Table for ALL users... This mean, the Database

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 14:09:29 +0100 RW wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:56:35 -0400 > Matt Kettler wrote: > > > Please be aware the AWL is NOT whitelist, or a blacklist, and the > > scores don't really quite work the way they look. The AWL is > > essentially an averager, and as such, it's sometime

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread wolfgang
In an older episode (Saturday, 4. July 2009), Michelle Konzack wrote: > If I do not remove it beforre "sa-learn --spam", I get an negative > AWL score. > > If I remove it, and run "sa-learn --spam" again, AWL is not > mentiioned. In my understanding, the fact that the "From:" address is in the

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-07-04 13:12:07, schrieb RW: > So what happens if you don't remove it, what error do you get when you > run sa-learn?# If I do not remove it beforre "sa-learn --spam", I get an negative AWL score. If I remove it, and run "sa-learn --spam" again, AWL is not mentiioned. To prevent manual

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Goog evening Jari, Am 2009-07-04 13:46:45, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/BetterDocumentation/SqlReadmeAwl Thankyou for the link, but if I understand it right, spamassassin is then using ONE Database/Table for ALL users... This mean, the Database will grow m

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 08:56:35 -0400 Matt Kettler wrote: > Please be aware the AWL is NOT whitelist, or a blacklist, and the > scores don't really quite work the way they look. The AWL is > essentially an averager, and as such, it's sometimes going to assign > negative scores to spam sometimes. An

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day and > some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my spamfolder > manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does not work... > > ...because the Spamer From: is in the a

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Matt Kettler
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day and > some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my spamfolder > manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does not work... > > ...because the Spamer From: is in the a

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread RW
On Sat, 4 Jul 2009 10:20:06 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Hello, > > while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day > and some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my > spamfolder manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does > not work... > > .

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Am 2009-07-04 11:53:27, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: >> Do You have SQL based AWL? If not, it might be worth a consideration, >> given your amounts of email. > > AWL in SQL? > > Yes, I have a PostgreSQL database available (mean, each user has one), > but how can I setup spamassassin to use it? >

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Henrik K
On Sat, Jul 04, 2009 at 11:53:27AM +0300, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > Hello, > > > > while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day and > > some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my spamfolder > > manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does not

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-07-04 11:53:27, schrieb Jari Fredriksson: > Do You have SQL based AWL? If not, it might be worth a consideration, > given your amounts of email. AWL in SQL? Yes, I have a PostgreSQL database available (mean, each user has one), but how can I setup spamassassin to use it? > With SQL >

Re: Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Jari Fredriksson
> Hello, > > while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day and > some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my spamfolder > manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does not work... > > ...because the Spamer From: is in the auto_whitelist. > > For m

Annoying auto_whitelist

2009-07-04 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello, while I get currently several 1000 shop/meds/pill/gen spams a day and some are going throug my filters, I have to move them to my spamfolder manualy and feed them to "sa-learn --spam" but this does not work... ...because the Spamer From: is in the auto_whitelist. For me, this seems t