Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread RW
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:54:56 +0200 Axb wrote: > On 10/14/2014 05:07 PM, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:58:27 +0200 > > Axb wrote: > > > >> On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: > >>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 > >>> Axb wrote: > >>> > > have you verified that some of these are

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread Axb
On 10/15/2014 12:54 PM, Martin Gregorie wrote: On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 09:19 +0200, Tom Hendrikx wrote: I propose to simplify, and move the code-wise exclusion to a config file too: one tuneable (and one location to look at) is better than two. Besides, the config file is far easier to read for th

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Wed, 2014-10-15 at 09:19 +0200, Tom Hendrikx wrote: > I propose to simplify, and move the code-wise exclusion to a config file > too: one tuneable (and one location to look at) is better than two. > Besides, the config file is far easier to read for the not so > regex-capable admin :) > That so

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread Axb
this, if we think MailScanner headers are common enough to warrant this? I also note that your 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf file has: bayes_ignore_header X-ServerMaster-MailScanner but that only covers one particular MailScanner user. that creeped in when merging Reindl's data removed

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread Anthony Cartmell
common enough to warrant this? I also note that your 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf file has: bayes_ignore_header X-ServerMaster-MailScanner but that only covers one particular MailScanner user. Anthony -- www.fonant.com - Quality web sites Tel. 01903 867 810 Fonant Ltd is registered in England

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-15 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 10/14/2014 11:54 PM, Axb wrote: > On 10/14/2014 05:07 PM, RW wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:58:27 +0200 >> Axb wrote: >> >>> On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: > > have you verified that some of these are not included? > >

Re: Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread Jeff Mincy
From: Axb Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 23:37:36 +0200 On 10/14/2014 11:08 PM, Adam Katz wrote: >> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: >>> and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or >>> not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly

Re: Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.10.2014 um 23:37 schrieb Axb: On 10/14/2014 11:08 PM, Adam Katz wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly related to AV/filter products. On 10/14

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 05:07 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:58:27 +0200 Axb wrote: On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not included? X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help detect ham

Re: Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 11:08 PM, Adam Katz wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly related to AV/filter products. On 10/14/2014 07:17 AM, David F. Skoll wrote:

Re: Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread Adam Katz
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: >> and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or >> not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly related >> to AV/filter products. On 10/14/2014 07:17 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: > I'm not sure I agree with being

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread RW
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 13:58:27 +0200 Axb wrote: > On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 > > Axb wrote: > > > >> > >> have you verified that some of these are not included? > >> > >> X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help > >> detect ham or

Re: Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 04:17 PM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly related to AV/filter products. I'm not sure I agree with being too clev

Philosophical question on Bayes (was Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf)

2014-10-14 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 16:10:52 +0200 Axb wrote: > and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or > not, I've removed all header entries which are not directly related > to AV/filter products. I'm not sure I agree with being too clever about Bayes. Surely by its very nature,

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 09:08 AM, Axb wrote: Updated (in case you're using it.) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf and to avoid further discussions of what header may pollute bayes or not, I've removed all header entries whi

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.10.2014 um 15:47 schrieb Axb: On 10/14/2014 03:34 PM, Tom Hendrikx wrote: On 10/14/2014 02:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Axb: On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not inc

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 03:34 PM, Tom Hendrikx wrote: On 10/14/2014 02:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Axb: On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not included? X-Originating-IP will not be i

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 10/14/2014 02:02 PM, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 14.10.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Axb: >> On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: >>> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 >>> Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not included? X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 14.10.2014 um 13:58 schrieb Axb: On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not included? X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help detect ham or spam It's really no different to other he

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 01:51 PM, RW wrote: On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: have you verified that some of these are not included? X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help detect ham or spam It's really no different to other headers you are ignoring. for example

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread RW
On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:44:51 +0200 Axb wrote: > > have you verified that some of these are not included? > > X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help > detect ham or spam It's really no different to other headers you are ignoring. In particular X-Delivered-To can be very

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 10:50 AM, Alessio Cecchi wrote: Il 14/10/2014 10:44, Axb ha scritto: have you verified that some of these are not included? Yes, twice. X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help detect ham or spam Ok, thanks sorted / uniq'd / commited

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Alessio Cecchi
Il 14/10/2014 10:44, Axb ha scritto: have you verified that some of these are not included? Yes, twice. X-Originating-IP will not be included as it can be used to help detect ham or spam Ok, thanks

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf I suggest these: from qmail-scanner: bayes_ignore_header X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics bayes_ignore_header X-Qmail-Scanner-MOVED-X-Spam-Status bayes_ignore_header X-Originating-IP from cloudmark: bayes_ignore_header X-Spam

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Alessio Cecchi
Il 14/10/2014 09:08, Axb ha scritto: Updated (in case you're using it.) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf I suggest these: from qmail-scanner: bayes_ignore_header X-Qmail-Scanner-Diagnostics bayes_ignore_header X-

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
On 10/14/2014 10:08 AM, Robert Schetterer wrote: Am 14.10.2014 um 09:08 schrieb Axb: Updated (in case you're using it.) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf i am not really sure but include bayes_ignore_header X-ge

Re: 23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Robert Schetterer
Am 14.10.2014 um 09:08 schrieb Axb: > Updated (in case you're using it.) > > http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf > i am not really sure but include bayes_ignore_header X-getmail-filter-classifier might be a go

23_bayes_ignore_header.cf

2014-10-14 Thread Axb
Updated (in case you're using it.) http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/axb/23_bayes_ignore_header.cf