Re: sent mail IDs untrusted relays correctly; forwarded email does not ?

2015-06-26 Thread PGNd
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 02:01 PM, RW wrote: > The received headers are parsed top to bottom; once an untrusted server > is identified the chain of trust is broken and nothing below that can > be trusted. Spammers can and do forge headers. Got it. Which leads back to the question you raised ...

Re: sent mail IDs untrusted relays correctly; forwarded email does not ?

2015-06-26 Thread PGNd
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015, at 01:23 PM, RW wrote: > They shouldn't be trusted unless there is a chain of trust. They don't > matter anyway since they are from the original relay before the email > was forwarded. I thought that 'chain of trust' was established by their inclusion in the internal_netwo

sent mail IDs untrusted relays correctly; forwarded email does not ?

2015-06-26 Thread PGNd
On my local server, I have SA running from within postfix+amavisd My TRUST PATH works for 'sent-directly-to-me' mail. For 'forwarded-to-me' mail, it incorrectly IDs my own internal IPs as untrusted relays. How do I teach SA to correctly NOT id my own servers as untrusted? Details ... If I sen

Re: .science the new leper of TLD's?

2015-06-19 Thread PGNd
for convenience, postfix & SA TLD-blocking snippets together: in postfix /etc/postfix/main.cf ... smtpd_sender_restrictions = ... + check_sender_access pcre:/etc/postfix/reject_TLDs.pcre permit_mynetworks

Re: ALL_TRUSTED triggering _intermittently_ on external mails?

2015-06-19 Thread PGNd
amavisd seems to be involved in this issue; not sure whether it's the 'culprit' or the 'victim'. A 'ham' mail received through postfix+amavisd+spamassassin arrives with headers ... X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.909 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score

Re: ALL_TRUSTED triggering _intermittently_ on external mails?

2015-06-19 Thread PGNd
> > UNPARSEABLE_RELAY still hits. I've not yet determined what the actual > > problem with the parsing is. > > It's a shortcoming/bug in the SpamAssassin ad-hoc parser. > > Please open a Bugzilla ticket and provide a sample of > your Received header field (which is perfectly valid > according to

Re: ALL_TRUSTED triggering _intermittently_ on external mails?

2015-06-19 Thread PGNd
Fwiw, removing ALL_TRUSTED from the shortcircuiting meta definition certainly prevents it from triggering the shortcircuit. However, it still fires -- incorrectly & intermittently, albeit now with a "-1" score attached. The LHLO/LMTP header still is added at the backend, and UNPARSEABLE_RELAY s

Re: ALL_TRUSTED triggering _intermittently_ on external mails?

2015-06-19 Thread PGNd
> Are the 196.28.80.29, 196.28.80.61, and 196.28.66.13 in your > trusted X.X.X.X/29 ? If they are, then hitting ALL_TRUSTED is expected. No, the X.X.X.X/29 is a different server -- one of my own, not in a 186. block, and definitely not in ZA. > > Jun 18 22:38:19.967 [19747] dbg: check: > > tes

ALL_TRUSTED triggering _intermittently_ on external mails?

2015-06-18 Thread PGNd
I'm running postfix 3.0.1 amavisd-new-2.10.1 (20141025) SpamAssassin version 3.4.1 on linux/64. amavisd/spamassasin is invoked as a postfix prequeue proxy filter. Spam is getting scanned and scored. Usually correctly. Intermittenly, I get an email that gets SHORTCIRCU