Re: More Sendgrid trouble?

2025-05-08 Thread John Levine
It appears that Marc said: >> Yeah, at this point, if I get anything from Outlook, Yahoo, Google, >> Mailchimp, Mailgun, OVH, or Sendgrid and it’s not a explicitly a >> whitelisted entry, I bounce it. > >I used a greylist where emails get a 4xx message with a link that allows the >email through .

Re: Ways to reduce calls to Validity BLs (was Validity (return path blocklist))

2025-05-08 Thread Bill Cole
On 2025-05-07 at 11:19:47 UTC-0400 (Wed, 07 May 2025 11:19:47 -0400) Greg Troxel is rumored to have said: Bill Cole writes: 1> On 2025-05-06 at 12:33:00 UTC-0400 (Tue, 06 May 2025 12:33:00 -0400) Greg Troxel is rumored to have said: [...] I think we have arrived at it being time to just d

Re: More Sendgrid trouble?

2025-05-08 Thread Andrew C Aitchison
On Thu, 8 May 2025, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 2025-05-08 08:11:18, Marc wrote: I used a greylist where emails get a 4xx message with a link that allows the email through so 'regular' users can get past it. Problem is, these fucked up networks are not even notifying users about 5xx and 4xx not

Re: More Sendgrid trouble?

2025-05-08 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 2025-05-08 08:11:18, Marc wrote: > > I used a greylist where emails get a 4xx message with a link that > allows the email through so 'regular' users can get past it. Problem > is, these fucked up networks are not even notifying users about 5xx > and 4xx notifications. With sendgrid, it depends

RE: More Sendgrid trouble?

2025-05-08 Thread Marc
> > > > > On Sep 29, 2022, at 11:26 AM, Greg Troxel wrote: > > > > > > Kris Deugau writes: > > > >> The Bayes result is not great, but the USER_IN_DEF_*_WL hits between > >> them account for most of that negative score anyway. > > > > With dkim-signed spam, I think the only two paths forward a