Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Jared Hall
On 9/22/2021 8:11 AM, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Morning all, So I'd recommend a different take.  Autolearn is an abomination we never should have published.  It is, in effect, a switch to allow a inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue. Agreed, predictable Garbage Out (FP) become

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 21.09.21 13:11, Matt Corallo wrote: I recently noticed my bayes was rarely matching any spam, and it turns out this was due to autolearn=ham'ing occurring on lots of list traffic that I only occasionally read, some of which was blatant spam. Sadly, list traffic can be pretty hard to categori

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-09-22 14:11, Kevin A. McGrail wrote: Morning all, So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we never should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue. Disable autolearn, wipe your Bayes store, and man

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
Morning all, So I'd recommend a different take. Autolearn is an abomination we never should have published. It is, in effect, a switch to allow a inherent bias in the modelling to grow and continue. Disable autolearn, wipe your Bayes store, and manually train from hand classified ham and spam.

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2021-09-21 at 18:57 -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > > Well, from the few I've seen, they all seem to have a relatively > constant structure. Someone pointed you to a plugin that is at least > dealing in this having a better suggestion. > > While I wrote a little Perl a decade ago I've forgot

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Bert Van de Poel
This is complete news to me! Based on the activity on the dev list, I had assumed there were still 10-20 people devoting some of their time to developing SA. If you are the only one, that of course changes my view very much, and would be something worth communicating in some spot. When I asked

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Sep 22, 2021 at 10:45:43AM +0200, Bert Van de Poel wrote: > > I hope I'm not passing on too much of a negative message. It would be great > of someone had a look at the Bayes autolearn code. I think it would be a > great service to the community! The fact is that there really aren't any ac

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Bert Van de Poel
I think having a look at the code itself is a good idea. I'm not sure if it's up-to-date but you can find some information on https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SPAMASSASSIN/DevelopmentStuff I've found that just reporting issues on SA's bugzilla is completely useless since it's just u

Re: Disabling autolearn on given rule

2021-09-22 Thread Henrik K
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 06:57:22PM -0700, Loren Wilton wrote: > > I guess one thing you might be able to do is implement a tflags flag of > absolutely_no_autolearn or some such that would force-disable the autolearn > decision if the rule had hit, but that might be something that would have to > be