Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Dondley writes: > Note: I've changed the score of RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI hits to -2.0 from > -5.0 until I get my misconfiguration figured out. Thanks for your > patience. Fair enough; that's not an unreasonable thing to do. Probably you want to turn report_safe to 0 for doing this testing. >

Re: Spamassassin reporting IP address is whitelisted by DNSWL.org but DNSWL.org reports it is not

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-10 03:20 PM, Bill Cole wrote: On 10 Apr 2021, at 14:53, Steve Dondley wrote: I'm very, very sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm deeply confused by the "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI" rule which appears to be reporting incorrectly on my system. STOP USING ANY PUBLIC DNS RESOLVERS WITH ANY MAIL

Re: Spamassassin reporting IP address is whitelisted by DNSWL.org but DNSWL.org reports it is not

2021-04-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Apr 2021, at 14:53, Steve Dondley wrote: I'm very, very sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm deeply confused by the "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI" rule which appears to be reporting incorrectly on my system. STOP USING ANY PUBLIC DNS RESOLVERS WITH ANY MAIL SERVERS! Some of these will return bogus

Spamassassin reporting IP address is whitelisted by DNSWL.org but DNSWL.org reports it is not

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
I'm very, very sorry to beat a dead horse, but I'm deeply confused by the "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI" rule which appears to be reporting incorrectly on my system. I ran this command: sudo -u s -- spamassassin -t -d < some_email It gives me this report: pts rule name description ---

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Apr 2021, at 12:55, Steve Dondley wrote: You should fix URIBL_BLOCKED first. You need a local, caching, non-forwarding DNS server for SpamAssassin. Yeah, setting up a DNS server for SA is on my todo list. Thanks. When you say local, it doesn't have to be on the same machine as spamass

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-10 17:51, Steve Dondley wrote: I have been looking at this issue a little more. I just grepped my spam folder. Out of 1000 emails I have flagged as spam, 321 have been flagged with RCVD_DNSWL_HI, a rule which adds -5 points to the eamil. That's almost 1 out of 3 emails which seems pret

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-10 17:36, Steve Dondley wrote: Is anyone else seeing spam getting flagged with RCVD_DNSWL_HI resulting in so many false positives? report this ip to dnswl with content as provding evedence, you know admins from dnswl.org here recently asked for this ?

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
You should fix URIBL_BLOCKED first. You need a local, caching, non-forwarding DNS server for SpamAssassin. Yeah, setting up a DNS server for SA is on my todo list. Thanks. When you say local, it doesn't have to be on the same machine as spamassassin, does it? I assume I can have the DNS ser

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
It would be helpful to post an entire actual set of headers -- unmodified -- along with the spamassassin -t report. I can't figure out (from what you posted) the IP address of the server that was in DNSWL_HI that delivered mail to your internal/trusted network. OK, here is the entire output

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Apr 2021, at 12:19, Steve Dondley wrote: On 2021-04-10 12:10 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: Steve Dondley writes: Here are the headers from some egregious spam. It scored a whopping 20.8 point despite being flagged with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI." Return-Path: Delivered-To: s...@example.com Received

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Dondley writes: > On 2021-04-10 12:10 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: >> Steve Dondley writes: >> >>> Here are the headers from some egregious spam. It scored a whopping >>> 20.8 point despite being flagged with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI." >>> >>> Return-Path: >>> Delivered-To: s...@example.com >>> Recei

Re: learning news from Spamassassin ?

2021-04-10 Thread Bill Cole
On 10 Apr 2021, at 10:17, RW wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:23:01 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: On 10.04.21 08:58, mau...@gmx.ch wrote: my spamassassin book are coming from 2004, and possible this arnt relay up2date. should be 90% fine. I didn't know there was a book but I looked it

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Arne Jensen
You do obviously have a very misconfigured system on your end. Den 10-04-2021 kl. 17:51 skrev Steve Dondley: > > X-Spam-Status: Yes, score=20.8 required=5.0 tests=BASE64_LENGTH_79_INF, >     [...] >     ***RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI***,RCVD_IN_PSBL,RCVD_IN_RP_RNBL,RCVD_IN_SBL_CSS, > RCVD_IN_VALIDITY_RPB

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
Steve Dondley writes: Here are the headers from some egregious spam. It scored a whopping 20.8 point despite being flagged with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI." Return-Path: Delivered-To: s...@example.com Received: from email.example.com by email.example.com with LMTP id AnV2NSCZbmCTcQAAB60

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread jwmincy
Steve Dondley writes: > From: Steve Dondley > Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 11:51:16 -0400 > > > > I have been looking at this issue a little more. I just grepped my > > spam folder. Out of 1000 emails I have flagged as spam, 321 have been > > flagged with RCVD_DNSWL_HI, a rule which adds -5 poi

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-10 12:10 PM, Greg Troxel wrote: Steve Dondley writes: Here are the headers from some egregious spam. It scored a whopping 20.8 point despite being flagged with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI." Return-Path: Delivered-To: s...@example.com Received: from email.example.com by email.example

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Greg Troxel
Steve Dondley writes: > Here are the headers from some egregious spam. It scored a whopping > 20.8 point despite being flagged with "RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI." > > Return-Path: > Delivered-To: s...@example.com > Received: from email.example.com > by email.example.com with LMTP > id AnV2NSCZ

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
I have been looking at this issue a little more. I just grepped my spam folder. Out of 1000 emails I have flagged as spam, 321 have been flagged with RCVD_DNSWL_HI, a rule which adds -5 points to the eamil. That's almost 1 out of 3 emails which seems pretty insane. Here are the headers from s

Re: DNSWL overriding bayes_99 and bayes_999 rules

2021-04-10 Thread Steve Dondley
On 2021-04-06 11:48 AM, Steve Dondley wrote: I have emails that have been flagged as spam in the past but that are still getting through, presumably because the servers are on some DNSWL. Example: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_99,BAYES_999, DATE_IN_PAST_03_06,DKIM_SI

Re: learning news from Spamassassin ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 13:23:01 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 10.04.21 08:58, mau...@gmx.ch wrote: > >my spamassassin book are coming from 2004, and possible this arnt > >relay up2date. > > should be 90% fine. I didn't know there was a book but I looked it up "Configure SpamAssassin

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-10 15:59, RW wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:54 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: dont use public dns servers ever, free or not It's not about using public caches. They are going to block look-ups from generic rDNS as well. I think they are already blocking some VPS address blocks.

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 15:44:54 +0200 Benny Pedersen wrote: > dont use public dns servers ever, free or not > It's not about using public caches. They are going to block look-ups from generic rDNS as well. I think they are already blocking some VPS address blocks.

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread Benny Pedersen
On 2021-04-10 15:28, RW wrote: On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:56:19 -0400 Rob McEwen wrote: On 4/10/2021 6:55 AM, Jared Hall wrote: > Rob, I gotta say that I am impressed with the whole Spamhaus-dqs > program and their use of customer keyed DNS zone queries.  Seems to > be the way around the client DNS

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread RW
On Sat, 10 Apr 2021 08:56:19 -0400 Rob McEwen wrote: > On 4/10/2021 6:55 AM, Jared Hall wrote: > > Rob, I gotta say that I am impressed with the whole Spamhaus-dqs > > program and their use of customer keyed DNS zone queries.  Seems to > > be the way around the client DNS forwarder issues.  How a

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread Rob McEwen
On 4/10/2021 6:55 AM, Jared Hall wrote: Rob, I gotta say that I am impressed with the whole Spamhaus-dqs program and their use of customer keyed DNS zone queries.  Seems to be the way around the client DNS forwarder issues.  How are you guys at Invaluement tracking in that area? I'm not sure

Re: learning news from Spamassassin ?

2021-04-10 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 10.04.21 08:58, mau...@gmx.ch wrote: my spamassassin book are coming from 2004, and possible this arnt relay up2date. should be 90% fine. I need to refresh the update and build the own rules. apparently new install, preferrably from your OS/distribution. read /etc/spamassassin/*.pre fil

Re: OT: is sorbs.net sleeping ?

2021-04-10 Thread Jared Hall
(you might be disappointed with SORBS in those areas too? - that's fine - I'm just trying to clarify that overly judging a DNSBL based on /*particular*/ false negatives can be overly harsh and might miss the good things that a DNSBL has to offer) Probably not that.  It is just SORBS.  Like whe