Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread @lbutlr
On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > https://litmus.com/blog/the-little-known Ah, right, THAT is why I have previews disabled on all my mail clients, I’d honestly forgotten. -- Han Solo: Damn fool, I knew you were going to say that. Ben: Who's the more foolish, the fool, or t

Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 6/28/2019 1:33 PM, Antony Stone wrote: >> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, Bill Cole wrote: >>> Also FWIW: ZWNJ and ZWJ appear chronically and prolifically in messages >>> sent by a small fraction of entirely legitimate mailing lists. I expect >>> to start seeing ZWS characters in opt-in B2C mail in 5... 4.

Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread Amir Caspi
On Jun 28, 2019, at 11:33 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > Indeed - people even promote its use: > > https://litmus.com/blog/the-little-known > Uuughh. I'd argue they deserve to be classified as spam just for doing that. =P I know, I know...

Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 28 June 2019 at 19:26:32, John Hardin wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, Bill Cole wrote: > > > > Also FWIW: ZWNJ and ZWJ appear chronically and prolifically in messages > > sent by a small fraction of entirely legitimate mailing lists. I expect > > to start seeing ZWS characters in opt-in B

Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread John Hardin
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019, Bill Cole wrote: On 27 Jun 2019, at 14:12, Amir Caspi wrote: On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John Hardin wrote: There's still not enough of that to trigger a scored rule, though. It may need some review of the masscheck results, and tuning. OK, retuned. FWIW, the x20

Re: Zero-width rules?

2019-06-28 Thread Bill Cole
On 27 Jun 2019, at 14:12, Amir Caspi wrote: On Jun 27, 2019, at 12:04 PM, John Hardin wrote: There's still not enough of that to trigger a scored rule, though. It may need some review of the masscheck results, and tuning. OK, retuned. FWIW, the x200b entity occurs only in my spam; I see

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread hg user
In this moment I have more than 400 delivery of a 178kb text/html message... no attachment... For specific senders I may: - apply a very restrictive throttling - skip spamassassin check On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 3:18 PM Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > >> On 28.06.19 12:03, hg user wrote: > >>

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.06.19 12:03, hg user wrote: >I did investigate a bit and was able to link spikes in emails received on >the external MTAs to spikes in messages queued in amavisd. > >As soon as I receive a mailing list/newsletter kind of email addressed to >several hundreds recipients and the message size is

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Henrik K
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 12:03:23PM +0200, hg user wrote: > > A message I was able to isolate is 94kb, has text and html part and processing > via command line takes about 6 seconds, I received 500+ of them. Due to > unsubscribe urls containing the mail address, all messages have different > hashes

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Henrik K
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 01:23:38PM +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 28.06.19 12:03, hg user wrote: > >I did investigate a bit and was able to link spikes in emails received on > >the external MTAs to spikes in messages queued in amavisd. > > > >As soon as I receive a mailing list/newslette

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.06.19 12:03, hg user wrote: I did investigate a bit and was able to link spikes in emails received on the external MTAs to spikes in messages queued in amavisd. As soon as I receive a mailing list/newsletter kind of email addressed to several hundreds recipients and the message size is mor

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread hg user
I did investigate a bit and was able to link spikes in emails received on the external MTAs to spikes in messages queued in amavisd. As soon as I receive a mailing list/newsletter kind of email addressed to several hundreds recipients and the message size is more than 70kb, the messages starts to

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:49 AM hg user wrote: I'm not able to lower cpu usage of amavisd. 4 cpus are used 100% and messages queue up to 15 minutes before being processed. mailq reports up to 470 queued messages... and this is bad, really bad. The most part of SA work is spent here: tests_pri

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread Dominic Raferd
On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 09:56, hg user wrote: > Messages reported by mailq decreased to about 370 and then, in a few > seconds, to 0... from 370 to 0 in a few seconds... > > > > On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:49 AM hg user wrote: > >> I'm not able to lower cpu usage of amavisd. >> 4 cpus are used 100

Re: amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread hg user
Messages reported by mailq decreased to about 370 and then, in a few seconds, to 0... from 370 to 0 in a few seconds... On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:49 AM hg user wrote: > I'm not able to lower cpu usage of amavisd. > 4 cpus are used 100% and messages queue up to 15 minutes before being > proces

amavisd 100% cpu load - 470 queued messages...

2019-06-28 Thread hg user
I'm not able to lower cpu usage of amavisd. 4 cpus are used 100% and messages queue up to 15 minutes before being processed. mailq reports up to 470 queued messages... and this is bad, really bad. The most part of SA work is spent here: tests_pri_0: 7371 (93.7%) and I know that priority 0 include