On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 22:55:41 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:
> the question is *how* is that de-listing managed and how do you
> manage "i will take care in the future" and if that's not true
> because de-listing is just a click how easy is it for spammers to not
> realy care
I delist anyone who asks
On Sun Jun 21 16:22:26 2015, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> I don't approve of Barracuda's behaviour. If they're blocking
> /24s because of some bad machines, you should not have to pay for
> delisting one IP. If they can prove that your specific IP was responsible
> for a spam run, then it's legit to cha
Am 21.06.2015 um 23:50 schrieb Jered Floyd:
There is a murky relationship between Barracuda and EmailReg. It's awfully suspicious
that signing up on whitelist X clears you from "unrelated" blacklist Y.
So, it may not be "paying to delist one IP" in framing, but in action it seems
to be pret
EmailReg.org operates a whitelist, so you pay to get listed there. The site
doesn't say much at all about what sort of verification or later delisting for
spam they might do.
However, they are promoted directly on the "Sorry, your email was blocked" page
for Barracuda Reputation, and the page
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 4:52 PM, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:26:54 -0400
> Jim Popovitch wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Dianne Skoll
>> > you should not have to pay for delisting one IP.
>> and with BN you are NOT paying for a delisting.
>
> You are splitting hairs.
Am 21.06.2015 um 22:52 schrieb Dianne Skoll:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:26:54 -0400
Jim Popovitch wrote:
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Dianne Skoll
you should not have to pay for delisting one IP.
and with BN you are NOT paying for a delisting.
You are splitting hairs. Essentially, you a
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 16:26:54 -0400
Jim Popovitch wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Dianne Skoll
> > you should not have to pay for delisting one IP.
> and with BN you are NOT paying for a delisting.
You are splitting hairs. Essentially, you are paying for delisting.
We run our own set
Am 21.06.2015 um 22:22 schrieb Dianne Skoll:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:23:58 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:
spammers don't invest money, never
Of course not. They pay using a stolen credit card.
I don't approve of Barracuda's behaviour. If they're blocking
/24s because of some bad machines, yo
On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 4:22 PM, Dianne Skoll wrote:
> you should not have to pay for delisting one IP.
and with BN you are NOT paying for a delisting.You are paying for
the upfront ID validation and verification process that goes into
fast-tracking your email flow. If you don't want that f
On Sun, 21 Jun 2015 19:23:58 +0200
Reindl Harald wrote:
> spammers don't invest money, never
Of course not. They pay using a stolen credit card.
I don't approve of Barracuda's behaviour. If they're blocking
/24s because of some bad machines, you should not have to pay for
delisting one IP. I
Am 21.06.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Antony Stone:
On Sunday 21 June 2015 at 19:23:58 (EU time), Reindl Harald wrote:
spammers don't invest money, never
Ah, my bad understanding - I followed the link you posted earlier
http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/Glossary#233 which pointed me to
http://ww
On Sunday 21 June 2015 at 19:23:58 (EU time), Reindl Harald wrote:
> spammers don't invest money, never
Ah, my bad understanding - I followed the link you posted earlier
http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/Glossary#233 which pointed me to
http://www.spamhaus.org/news/article/641?article=641 whi
On 21 Jun 2015, at 10:33, Jered Floyd wrote:
Richard,
The BRBL may have listed the entire /24 that includes your sending
IPs.
Painful experience has shown that Barracuda won't hear your requests
for
delisting, and the listing may never go away.
I believe you've got it in one. I heard bac
Am 21.06.2015 um 18:58 schrieb Antony Stone:
On Sunday 21 June 2015 at 17:22:58 (EU time), Jim Popovitch wrote:
I appear to be getting a shakedown scam from Barracuda Networks.
You are not being shaken down, but you might be slandering. ;-)
I'm fairly certain that BN isn't making much prof
On Sunday 21 June 2015 at 17:22:58 (EU time), Jim Popovitch wrote:
> > I appear to be getting a shakedown scam from Barracuda Networks.
>
> You are not being shaken down, but you might be slandering. ;-)
>
> I'm fairly certain that BN isn't making much profit off of your $20.
> What they are ge
> I appear to be getting a shakedown scam from Barracuda Networks.
You are not being shaken down, but you might be slandering. ;-)
I'm fairly certain that BN isn't making much profit off of your $20.
What they are getting is your commitment, and your ID, that one or
more IP addrs under your cont
Am 21.06.2015 um 17:00 schrieb Jeroen de Neef:
I wonder what their justification is for doing this.
the questoon is how many addtional IP's on the /24 where in fact sending
spam, see http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/Glossary#233
2015-06-21 16:33 GMT+02:00 Jered Floyd mailto:je...@convi
I wonder what their justification is for doing this.
2015-06-21 16:33 GMT+02:00 Jered Floyd :
>
> Richard,
>
> > The BRBL may have listed the entire /24 that includes your sending IPs.
> > Painful experience has shown that Barracuda won't hear your requests for
> > delisting, and the listing may
Richard,
> The BRBL may have listed the entire /24 that includes your sending IPs.
> Painful experience has shown that Barracuda won't hear your requests for
> delisting, and the listing may never go away.
I believe you've got it in one. I heard back from a colleague on the same /24
(though n
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