Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/5/2014 2:12 PM, John Woods wrote: I did skim bug 5503 earlier, but didn't understand it at first. Knowing the history now, it makes a little more sense, although I'm still fuzzy on why the value of "3" for the body and head points is important. Can disagree. I don't know the history

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 5 Nov 2014, John Woods wrote: As for Bayes strategies (and without starting a flamewar), we just started implementing an IMAP folder in everyone's mailbox called "Learn As Spam", that gets processed through "sa-learn --spam". It sounds like we may need to leave auto-learning to SA's

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread John Woods
Kevin, I did skim bug 5503 earlier, but didn't understand it at first. Knowing the history now, it makes a little more sense, although I'm still fuzzy on why the value of "3" for the body and head points is important. It might be nice to have local.cf directives to allow admins to be

Re: Bayesian weighting based on top/bottom of message?

2014-11-05 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 4 Nov 2014, Dave Brondsema wrote: I get spam where the subject and beginning of the body is clearly spam, but then at the end there is a paragraph or two of text taken from a news article, stackoverflow technical text, etc. The total bayes score for messages like these is often fairly n

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread RW
On Tue, 04 Nov 2014 17:06:54 -0600 John Woods wrote: > 1) How does SpamAssassin derive and sum the "body_only" and > "head_only" points? It doesn't look like the body_only points > correspond to any scores from individual tests. Scoring uses one of four score sets, chosen according to whet

Re: Bayes learning differences: v3.3.2 to v3.4.0

2014-11-05 Thread Kevin A. McGrail
On 11/4/2014 6:06 PM, John Woods wrote: Everyone, We're having problems with auto learning on v3.4.0 that we aren't having on v.3.3.2. The number of spam e-mails being auto-learned has dropped significantly, and the amount of spam being let through (false negatives) is higher as well.

Re: DMARC policy check with AskDNS posible?

2014-11-05 Thread Christian Laußat
Am 2014-11-04 18:01, schrieb Mark Martinec: Done, added SENDERDOMAIN and AUTHORDOMAIN tags: https://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=7099 Mark Great work! I also like the idea of checking for weak SPF settings with the SENDERDOMAIN tag, as Steadramon suggested. -- Christi