Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Olivier Nicole
Jay, > I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. > But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. > I've been downloading missing perl packages a handful > at a time, but I despair of the list ever coming to an > end. > > 2. Or does somebody have this list of dependencies >

Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2013-10-29 at 13:27 -0500, Jay G. Scott wrote: > I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. > But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. > I've been downloading missing perl packages a handful > at a time, but I despair of the list ever coming to an > end. > 2. Or

Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Axb
Please keep list mail on the list... On 10/29/2013 09:40 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote: On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 07:36:53PM +0100, Axb wrote: On 10/29/2013 07:27 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote: I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. I've

Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 29 Oct 2013, Axb wrote: On 10/29/2013 07:27 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote: I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. not trying to be helpful, just curious. Who came up with such an idea? (Reminds me of 90's and Microso

Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 29 October 2013 at 19:27:51, Jay G. Scott wrote: > I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. > But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. > I've been downloading missing perl packages a handful > at a time, but I despair of the list ever coming to an > end. >

Re: dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Axb
On 10/29/2013 07:27 PM, Jay G. Scott wrote: I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. I've been downloading missing perl packages a handful at a time, but I despair of the list ever coming to an end. 1. I _might_ (and might n

dependency hell

2013-10-29 Thread Jay G. Scott
I have a machine on which I'd like to run spamassassin. But it's behind an air gap. It's not on the internet. I've been downloading missing perl packages a handful at a time, but I despair of the list ever coming to an end. 1. I _might_ (and might not) be able to put a similar machine outside t

Re: AXB_X_ORIG_OMNIMS is causing too many FPs

2013-10-29 Thread Axb
On 10/29/2013 06:25 PM, Adam Katz wrote: On 10/28/2013 12:30 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 28 Oct 2013, Axb wrote: I'll disable this rule. Convert it to a subrule, it may be useful in metas. I've disabled it - Those spams are easier to detect and reject at MTA level. Microsoft sends them

Re: AXB_X_ORIG_OMNIMS is causing too many FPs

2013-10-29 Thread Adam Katz
On 10/28/2013 12:30 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 28 Oct 2013, Axb wrote: >> I'll disable this rule. > > Convert it to a subrule, it may be useful in metas. It is useful. I added the domain to freemail_domains (see r1533678 ) to cat

Re: Outbound filtering (was Re: How to get removed from spamcop?)

2013-10-29 Thread David F. Skoll
On 29 Oct 2013 09:45:02 -0700 "Neil Schwartzman" wrote: > the difficulty with a rate-limiting approach is the criminals > reverse-engineer it pretty quickly, and just spread the joy over > numerous accounts. True, though that's quite hard. Given a user population of 10K users, it's pretty easy

Re: Outbound filtering (was Re: How to get removed from spamcop?)

2013-10-29 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:31 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: > On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:42:29 -0400 (EDT) > "John R. Levine" wrote: > >> But outbound filtering is far more useful when it, you know, actually >> works. > > Outbound filtering is far trickier than inbound filtering. Unless you > really want

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Axb
On 10/29/2013 05:26 PM, Joe Sniderman wrote: On 10/29/2013 12:19 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06: Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting doesn't seem to work. We're a s

Outbound filtering (was Re: How to get removed from spamcop?)

2013-10-29 Thread David F. Skoll
On Mon, 28 Oct 2013 21:42:29 -0400 (EDT) "John R. Levine" wrote: > But outbound filtering is far more useful when it, you know, actually > works. Outbound filtering is far trickier than inbound filtering. Unless you really want to annoy your customers, you have to hold suspect mail (anything sc

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On Oct 29, 2013, at 9:19 AM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06: >> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally >> automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting >> doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk E

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 10/29/2013 12:19 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06: >> Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally >> automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting >> doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email >> F

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Benny Pedersen
Marc Perkel skrev den 2013-10-28 22:06: Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter) and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Neil Schwartzman
you have to sign up for that service, and depending upon how your network is set up, you may not be able to receive such reports. I suggest people take a look at all the FBLs at http://blog.wordtothewise.com/tag/fbls/ as well Neil Schwartzman Executive Director Coalition Against unsolicited Co

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 28.10.13 14:06, Marc Perkel wrote: Just wondering if any real people are there or if it's totally automated. They have several of our IP addresses listed and delisting doesn't seem to work. We're a spam filtering company (Junk Email Filter) and if we fail to block a spam it can appear we are

Re: How to get removed from spamcop?

2013-10-29 Thread Tom Hendrikx
On 10/29/2013 05:21 AM, Marc Perkel wrote: > > > What's odd is that all my inbound servers are listed. This sounds like a typical backscatter problem to me... Kind regards, Tom signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature