Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 10:48 AM -0700 06/17/2013, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: I am now seeing STYLE_GIBBERISH hitting on a lot of spam in the past day or so, since the new rules hit the distribution. So far, all TPs, no FPs. Yay! But, I found one today that should have hit

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:39 PM, Benny Pedersen wrote: > John Hardin skrev den 2013-06-17 20:52: > >>> http://pastebin.com/qwdtSqJd >> >> Well, that *is* gibberish in a STYLE tag. Bad coder, no biscuit. >> >> If it persists I can add an exclusion for mail from groupon.com > > Content analysi

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
John Hardin skrev den 2013-06-17 20:52: http://pastebin.com/qwdtSqJd Well, that *is* gibberish in a STYLE tag. Bad coder, no biscuit. If it persists I can add an exclusion for mail from groupon.com Content analysis details: (-2.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name descript

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex
Hi, I am now seeing STYLE_GIBBERISH hitting on a lot of spam in the past day or so, since the new rules hit the distribution. So far, all TPs, no FPs. >>> >>> >>> Yay! >> >> >> I've also noticed the latest iteration hitting now quite a bit, but >> also found an FP from groupon: >>

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2013-06-17 Thread Alex
Hi, I've been working with a rule to catch forged mail from gmail and yahoo, however, it's hitting some ham now and hoped someone could help. Doesn't gmail allow for configurations where they just relay mail for your hosted domain? This domain is whitelisted, or it otherwise would have hit. http

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Alex wrote: Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM, John Hardin wrote: On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 7:20 PM -0700 06/15/2013, John Hardin wrote: I took a closer look at this and it seems they're working around trivial gibberish detection by putting a va

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Alex
Hi, On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 1:48 PM, John Hardin wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: > >> At 7:20 PM -0700 06/15/2013, John Hardin wrote: >>> >>> I took a closer look at this and it seems they're working around trivial >>> gibberish detection by putting a valid CSS property at th

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Amir Caspi
On Mon, June 17, 2013 11:48 am, John Hardin wrote: > Well, that's a much harder problem. STYLE tags have a specified format, > and content not matching that format is (fairly) easy to detect. Comments > are freeform text - "gibberish" has the same meaning there that it does in > regular body text.

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread John Hardin
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013, Amir 'CG' Caspi wrote: At 7:20 PM -0700 06/15/2013, John Hardin wrote: I took a closer look at this and it seems they're working around trivial gibberish detection by putting a valid CSS property at the very beginning of the style tag. Revising the rules... I am now se

Re: New rule for HTML spam, using comments?

2013-06-17 Thread Amir 'CG' Caspi
At 7:20 PM -0700 06/15/2013, John Hardin wrote: I took a closer look at this and it seems they're working around trivial gibberish detection by putting a valid CSS property at the very beginning of the style tag. Revising the rules... I am now seeing STYLE_GIBBERISH hitting on a lot of spam

Re: Single images with random wording & general rules

2013-06-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 17.06.13 13:34, emailitis.com wrote: We get quite a lot of Spam at present which is getting Bayes 00 so I know it is mis-reporting. I just don't know why or what to do about it: So what is the easiest way to re-learn Spam with low Bayes? pipe the spam to "spamassassin -r" or "spamc -L spa

RE: Single images with random wording & general rules

2013-06-17 Thread emailitis.com
Thanks for the reply. We get quite a lot of Spam at present which is getting Bayes 00 so I know it is mis-reporting. I just don't know why or what to do about it: Jun 17 12:23:31 plesk3 spamd[3268]: spamd: result: . 4 - BAD_CREDIT,BAYES_00,HTML_IMAGE_RATIO_08,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_XBL,RP_MATCHES

Re: PayPal spam filter?

2013-06-17 Thread RW
On Mon, 17 Jun 2013 10:48:34 +1200 Jason Haar wrote: > Just a FYI but SA scores failures of "~all" much stronger than it does > for "-all" They all score under one point. > > http://spamassassin.1065346.n5.nabble.com/default-score-for-SPF-HELO-FAIL-too-low-td13894.html > > > That's it - I'm r

Re: PayPal spam filter?

2013-06-17 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 18:51 +1200, Jason Haar wrote: > On 17/06/13 16:14, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > Jason Haar skrev den 2013-06-17 00:48: > > > >> That's it - I'm removing SPF... > > > > hardfail is for mta, softfails is for spamassassin, if your mta accept > > hardfail spf, then you self ask for

Re: Single images with random wording & general rules

2013-06-17 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
On 17.06.13 11:52, emailitis.com wrote: Autolearn is turned on. I don't think we allow users to train without review - is there a way I can confirm? We have Plesk 10 and are using SA through qmail-scanner. Even a high Bayes seems to have been mis-classified: Jun 17 11:44:04 plesk3 spamd[186

RE: Single images with random wording & general rules

2013-06-17 Thread emailitis.com
Autolearn is turned on. I don't think we allow users to train without review - is there a way I can confirm? We have Plesk 10 and are using SA through qmail-scanner. Even a high Bayes seems to have been mis-classified: Jun 17 11:44:04 plesk3 spamd[18601]: spamd: result: . 3 - BAYES_99,FORGED

RE: Single images with random wording & general rules

2013-06-17 Thread emailitis.com
Autolearn is turned on. I don't think we allow users to train without review - is there a way I can confirm? We have Plesk 10 and are using SA through qmail-scanner. Even a high Bayes seems to have been mis-classified: Jun 17 11:44:04 plesk3 spamd[18601]: spamd: result: . 3 - BAYES_99,FORGED

Re: PayPal spam filter?

2013-06-17 Thread Benny Pedersen
Jason Haar skrev den 2013-06-17 08:51: ?? SA scores hardfails as 0.0 due to the high positive rate. Therefore blocking on SPF hardfails must lead to a high FP rate too? If your organization is willing to live with valid email being bounced, fine - but I'm going to listen to our SA overlords