Re: New Bayes like paradigm

2011-09-28 Thread darxus
On 09/28, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: > On 09/28, Marc Perkel wrote: > > You would only have to test the rule combinations that the message > > actually triggered. So if it hit 10 rules then it would be 1024 > > combinations. Seems not to be unreasonable to me. > combinations in the actual corpo

Re: New Bayes like paradigm

2011-09-28 Thread darxus
On 09/28, Marc Perkel wrote: > You would only have to test the rule combinations that the message > actually triggered. So if it hit 10 rules then it would be 1024 > combinations. Seems not to be unreasonable to me. You definitely have a good point that it would only be necessary to track the comb

Re: New Bayes like paradigm

2011-09-28 Thread Marc Perkel
On 9/27/2011 9:25 PM, dar...@chaosreigns.com wrote: On 09/27, Marc Perkel wrote: Here's the kind of think I'm seeing. Spam talks about money - low score. Spam talks about Jesus - low score. Spam talks about money and Jesus and throw in a dear someone and it's spam. I'm hoping to detect combina

Re: Bayes auto-learning a bad idea?

2011-09-28 Thread RW
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:30:32 +0200 Lars Jørgensen wrote: > Looking at > http://spamassassin.apache.org/full/3.3.x/doc/Mail_SpamAssassin_Conf.html#learning_options > > i see an option called "bayes_use_hapaxes" that promises > significantly better hit-rates, but also increases database size by a

Re: Bayes auto-learning a bad idea?

2011-09-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 14:30:32 +0200, Lars Jørgensen wrote: On 28-09-2011 13:20, Benny Pedersen wrote: I train Bayes manually on the borderline cases, but also have auto-learning enabled. Is that really a bad idea? Should I disable it, delete the bayes-databases and start over on manual-only lea

Re: Bayes auto-learning a bad idea?

2011-09-28 Thread Lars Jørgensen
On 28-09-2011 13:20, Benny Pedersen wrote: I train Bayes manually on the borderline cases, but also have auto-learning enabled. Is that really a bad idea? Should I disable it, delete the bayes-databases and start over on manual-only learning? no training is always good Are you missing a comma

Re: Bayes auto-learning a bad idea?

2011-09-28 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, 28 Sep 2011 10:07:55 +0200, Lars Jørgensen wrote: Hi, Not sure if this is the correct forum, but google couldn't help me (or I am too low on caffeine). I get a lot of spam that would have been flagged as such, but a bayes score of -1.9 pulls it down to hammy status. I train Bayes manua

Bayes auto-learning a bad idea?

2011-09-28 Thread Lars Jørgensen
Hi, Not sure if this is the correct forum, but google couldn't help me (or I am too low on caffeine). I get a lot of spam that would have been flagged as such, but a bayes score of -1.9 pulls it down to hammy status. I train Bayes manually on the borderline cases, but also have auto-learni