RFC-Ignorant (was Re: Irony)

2011-02-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:52:04 -0500 Michael Scheidell wrote: > [204.89.241.253] mail from: <> > 250 OK > rcpt to: > 550 Missing, invalid or expired BATV signature A long time ago, I was involved with an argument with the RFC-Ignorant maintainer. The thread starts here: http://lists.megacity.org

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Randy Ramsdell
Michael Scheidell wrote: On 2/1/11 9:49 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:40 -0500 Randy Ramsdell wrote: Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse, we would be rejected all over the place. Seems like a common setting. Or is it? so we should reject your email if y

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 09:49:36 -0500 Michael Scheidell wrote: > because HELO doesn't match RDNS. Rejecting on that basis would also cause tons of false-positives. Regards, David.

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Giles Coochey
On 01/02/2011 15:49, Michael Scheidell wrote: On 2/1/11 9:34 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: On 01/02/2011 15:30, Danita Zanre wrote: Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing Reverse DNS lookups on my server. Danita Why??? Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 2/1/11 9:49 AM, David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:40 -0500 Randy Ramsdell wrote: Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse, we would be rejected all over the place. Seems like a common setting. Or is it? so we should reject your email if you are on the rfc-ignorant

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Randy Ramsdell
David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:40 -0500 Randy Ramsdell wrote: Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse, we would be rejected all over the place. Seems like a common setting. Or is it? Microsoft Windows is very common, but that doesn't make it a good idea. We add a

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 09:43:40 -0500 Randy Ramsdell wrote: > Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse, we would be > rejected all over the place. Seems like a common setting. Or is it? Microsoft Windows is very common, but that doesn't make it a good idea. We add a small score [1.2 poin

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Michael Scheidell
On 2/1/11 9:34 AM, Giles Coochey wrote: On 01/02/2011 15:30, Danita Zanre wrote: Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing Reverse DNS lookups on my server. Danita Why??? Received: from mail.apache.org (hermes.apache.org [140.211.11.3]) because HELO doesn

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Giles Coochey
On 01/02/2011 15:43, Randy Ramsdell wrote: Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse, we would be rejected all over the place. Seems like a common setting. Or is it? Personally, rejecting a message on the basis of a single criteria is pretty harsh. You don't need to be the RFC-poli

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Randy Ramsdell
David F. Skoll wrote: On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 07:30:19 -0700 Danita Zanre wrote: Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing Reverse DNS lookups on my server. The irony is that you think that's a good idea. -- David. Not sure. If our mail servers did not have reverse,

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread David F. Skoll
On Tue, 01 Feb 2011 07:30:19 -0700 Danita Zanre wrote: > Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing > Reverse DNS lookups on my server. The irony is that you think that's a good idea. -- David.

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Ralf Hildebrandt
* Danita Zanre : > Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing > Reverse DNS lookups on my server. Enforce how exactly? -- Ralf Hildebrandt Geschäftsbereich IT | Abteilung Netzwerk Charité - Universitätsmedizin Berlin Campus Benjamin Franklin Hindenburgdamm 30 | D

Re: Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Giles Coochey
On 01/02/2011 15:30, Danita Zanre wrote: Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing Reverse DNS lookups on my server. Danita Why??? Default Server: cache0201.ns.eu.uu.net Address: 193.79.237.39 > hermes.apache.org Server: cache0201.ns.eu.uu.net Address: 193.79.2

Irony

2011-02-01 Thread Danita Zanre
Messages from this list have been bouncing since I started enforcing Reverse DNS lookups on my server. Danita