Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread John Wilcock
Le 27/01/2010 22:31, Kai Schaetzl a écrit : John Wilcock wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:43:56 +0100: someone forgot to include 72_active.cf and 80_additional.cf in the sa-update files. Now I understand. However, why am I not getting these warnings with a spamassassin --lint? Presumably becaus

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread jdow
This is a problem a lot of people face, some for more legitimate reasons than others. I have an Earthlink.net account, from when they were smaller and Sky Dayton still ran the show - actually from not long after he founded the company. Over the years people forged the Earthlink address. Earthlink

Re: how can i finetune to spamassassin to handle spams

2010-01-27 Thread ram
Hi thanks for the quick answer my coments below On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 9:54 AM, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, ram wrote: > > it works, but i see most of the mails are tagged as SPAM. >> > > A little more detail, please: Are you complaining about seeing lots of > false positives?

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread RW
On Thu, 28 Jan 2010 09:34:46 +0800 jida...@jidanni.org wrote: >> Yes, and what may seem like a mere 1.6 points is causing me to have to > request the whole spam threshold of that mailing list > http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.eeepc/2850/raw be > lowered just for me, just becaus

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Noel Butler
On Thu, 2010-01-28 at 10:35 +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > Yes, but that's beside the point. That is not solving the bad thing > you guys are doing. Eh? stopping spammers is a bad thing now hey... > MM> The world isn't perfect and the only way to get things changed is to > complaint >

Re: Debian maintainers online? 3.3.0 availability Q

2010-01-27 Thread Gary V
On 1/27/10, Toni Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > > On Wed, 27.01.2010 at 10:35:20 +0200, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > Will the new 3.3 be announced for Lenny (possibly via backports) or do I > > need to use CPAN? > > you could probably file a wishlist bug against spamassassin, and/or > prod someone to do

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi Jadinni, > > "MM" == Michael Mansour writes: > MM> Why couldn't the mailing list filters simply whitelist your > email address or MM> whitelist people automatically subscribed to > the mailing list? Yes, but that's beside the point. That is not > solving the bad thing you guys are doing

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Michael Mansour
Hi Jidanni, > Long ago, I tried mailing directly direct-to-mx style, but that of > course didn't work, e.g., http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL109625 > So only 5% of my mail got through. > > So then I tried mailing through The ISP Here, Hinet.Net's SMTP > server, but of course Hinet.Net has a

Re: Mysql Bayes not working with 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
At 03:37 PM Wednesday, 1/27/2010, Mark Martinec wrote -=> On Wednesday January 27 2010 23:28:46 Ed Kasky wrote: > I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very > successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming > through since upgrading I though I had bett

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread jidanni
Long ago, I tried mailing directly direct-to-mx style, but that of course didn't work, e.g., http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/query/PBL109625 So only 5% of my mail got through. So then I tried mailing through The ISP Here, Hinet.Net's SMTP server, but of course Hinet.Net has a bad name. So only 50% of

Re: Mysql Bayes not working with 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Martinec
On Wednesday January 27 2010 23:28:46 Ed Kasky wrote: > I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very > successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming > through since upgrading I though I had better check the scoring to > see what was going on. Here's wha

Mysql Bayes not working with 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
I have been using Mysql for bayes storage for quite some time very successfully for quite some time. After seeing a lot of spam coming through since upgrading I though I had better check the scoring to see what was going on. Here's what I found: Jan 27 10:16:27 yoda spamd[30357]: Issuing rol

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
At 10:02 AM Wednesday, 1/27/2010, John Wilcock wrote -=> Le 27/01/2010 18:57, Justin Mason a écrit : Either someone forgot to delete all these rules, or (more likely IMO) someone forgot to include 72_active.cf and 80_additional.cf in the sa-update files. I think you're dead right. It appears

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Wilcock wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 17:43:56 +0100: > someone forgot to include 72_active.cf and 80_additional.cf in the > sa-update files. Now I understand. However, why am I not getting these warnings with a spamassassin --lint? Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http:/

RE: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Jackson, Jeff
Thank you guys! I'm now down to just 5 non-existent rule warnings as well: Jan 27 10:18:13.473 [19398] dbg: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule SHORTCIRCUIT Jan 27 10:18:13.473 [19398] dbg: config: warning: score set for non-existent rule SUBJ_RE_NUM Jan 27 10:18:13.473 [19398] dbg:

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 1/27/2010 1:02 PM, John Wilcock wrote: Le 27/01/2010 18:57, Justin Mason a écrit : Either someone forgot to delete all these rules, or (more likely IMO) someone forgot to include 72_active.cf and 80_additional.cf in the sa-update files. I think you're dead right. It appears one of the bu

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread John Wilcock
Le 27/01/2010 18:57, Justin Mason a écrit : Either someone forgot to delete all these rules, or (more likely IMO) someone forgot to include 72_active.cf and 80_additional.cf in the sa-update files. I think you're dead right. It appears one of the build scripts does the wrong thing with the 3.3

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Justin Mason
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 16:43, John Wilcock wrote: > To state the problem again, 463 of the scores in the 50_scores.cf from 3.3.0 > sa-update refer to rules that used to be in 72_active.cf or 80_additional.cf > in 3.2.5, but that neither of these two files are anywhere to be found in > the 3.3.0 s

Re: how can i finetune to spamassassin to handle spams

2010-01-27 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, ram wrote: it works, but i see most of the mails are tagged as SPAM. A little more detail, please: Are you complaining about seeing lots of false positives? Or are you complaining about seeing lots of properly classified spams that are being delivered to your mailbox whe

Re: jhardin test rules

2010-01-27 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, R-Elists wrote: in regards to http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhardin/ Q1) what does this annotation mean? * Do not publish the ADVANCE_FEE re-evolve test rules! * This means they are development-only rules that exist for masscheck score

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread John Wilcock
Le 27/01/2010 17:31, Kai Schaetzl a écrit : John Wilcock wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:27:17 +0100: Me too... 463 of them, to be exact. Do you want to say that you changed the score of 463 rules? No, absolutely not. On this test box I haven't changed the scores of any rules. There are absol

Re: 3.3.0 local.cf parse error

2010-01-27 Thread Mark Martinec
Jeff, > I'm getting the following parse errors after upgrading to 3.3.0: > > Jan 27 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, > in "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf": use_auto_whitelist 1 Jan 27 > 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in > "

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
so what? Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Wilcock wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:27:17 +0100: > Me too... 463 of them, to be exact. Do you want to say that you changed the score of 463 rules? > However, these two files don't seem to exist in > /var/lib/spamassassin/3.003000/updates_spamassassin_org/ Indeed, that's why you are getti

Re: 3.3.0 local.cf parse error

2010-01-27 Thread Jason Bertoch
On 1/27/2010 11:19 AM, Jackson, Jeff wrote: I'm getting the following parse errors after upgrading to 3.3.0: Jan 27 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf": use_auto_whitelist 1 Jan 27 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to p

3.3.0 local.cf parse error

2010-01-27 Thread Jackson, Jeff
I'm getting the following parse errors after upgrading to 3.3.0: Jan 27 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in "/etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf": use_auto_whitelist 1 Jan 27 08:04:15.172 [30437] warn: config: failed to parse line, skipping, in "/etc/mail/spamassass

jhardin test rules

2010-01-27 Thread R-Elists
in regards to http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/spamassassin/trunk/rulesrc/sandbox/jhardin/ Q1) what does this annotation mean? * Do not publish the ADVANCE_FEE re-evolve test rules! * we frequently check for updates and it appears that we shouldnt at this time until ??? Q2) when? :-) tia -

how can i finetune to spamassassin to handle spams

2010-01-27 Thread ram
Hi i recently installed 3.2.5 version of spamassassin iam runing with simscan+spamassassin+clamav it works, but i see most of the mails are tagged as SPAM. like example Jan 27 20:36:28 mail spamd[15138]: spamd: identified spam (9.1/5.0) for simscan:509 in 3.7 seconds, 584 bytes. Jan 27 20:36:2

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Charles Gregory
On Wed, 27 Jan 2010, Kai Schaetzl wrote: So what should a Taiwan user (Taiwan~=Hinet) user do. Buy a SMTP account with a US Company? I told you what you can do. Apart from that, again: SARE is not part of SA. SARE is deprecated. So, why bother? Why bother posting just to tell him that his fate

Re: Size of Bayes data and possible mysql storage?

2010-01-27 Thread Ned Slider
Kārlis Repsons wrote: Hello spam assassins, The question, which bothers me is about Bayes data size. How much is a typical size of those data and what mechanisms are there to limit growing of it? Can mysql be used for storage and would you recommend it (well, maybe it can then be easier to sha

Re: Size of Bayes data and possible mysql storage?

2010-01-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
Kārlis Repsons wrote: > Hello spam assassins, > The question, which bothers me is about Bayes data size. How much is a > typical > size of those data and what mechanisms are there to limit growing of it? Can > mysql be used for storage and would you recommend it (well, maybe it can then > be ea

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread John Wilcock
Le 27/01/2010 07:30, Ed Kasky a écrit : Also - is anyone else getting a lot of "warning: score set for non-existent rule" errors? I ran sa-update after teand continue to get a slew of them... Me too... 463 of them, to be exact. With the exception of ACCESSDB where the score is set to 0 anyway

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 15:10:48 +0100: > because his mail can be tagged as spam? Not largely a problem. Did you look at the mailing list conversation he linked to? It seems he's actively telling the mailing list owner how to tune SA and reduce the required score to 2 (

Re: Size of Bayes data and possible mysql storage?

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Kārlis Repsons wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:02:40 +: > The question, which bothers me is about Bayes data size. How much is a > typical > size of those data depends. > and what mechanisms are there to limit growing of it? it's all documented > Can > mysql be used for storage that is

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> jida...@jidanni.org wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:12:11 +0800: > > So what should a Taiwan user (Taiwan~=Hinet) > >HINET: Control of approx 8,476,149 IP addresses > > http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/3/AS3462.htm > > user do. Buy a SMTP account with a US Company? On 27.01.10 12:31, Kai Schaetzl

Size of Bayes data and possible mysql storage?

2010-01-27 Thread Kārlis Repsons
Hello spam assassins, The question, which bothers me is about Bayes data size. How much is a typical size of those data and what mechanisms are there to limit growing of it? Can mysql be used for storage and would you recommend it (well, maybe it can then be easier to share Spamassassin knowledg

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Ed Kasky
At 03:31 AM Wednesday, 1/27/2010, you wrote -=> Ed Kasky wrote on Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:30:23 -0800: > FuzzyOcr is it mentioned in the release notes? check back with the author of this plugin if it is compatible with 3.3.0 > Also - is anyone else getting a lot of "warning: score set for > non-ex

Re: Fuzzyocr and rule errors after upgrade to 3.3.0

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Ed Kasky wrote on Tue, 26 Jan 2010 22:30:23 -0800: > FuzzyOcr is it mentioned in the release notes? check back with the author of this plugin if it is compatible with 3.3.0 > Also - is anyone else getting a lot of "warning: score set for > non-existent rule" errors? I ran sa-update after tean

Re: [Sare-users] painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
jida...@jidanni.org wrote on Wed, 27 Jan 2010 14:12:11 +0800: > So what should a Taiwan user (Taiwan~=Hinet) >HINET: Control of approx 8,476,149 IP addresses > http://www.fixedorbit.com/AS/3/AS3462.htm > user do. Buy a SMTP account with a US Company? I told you what you can do. Apart from t

Re: painting everybody in Taiwan with the same brush

2010-01-27 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Jdow wrote on Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:07:14 -0800: > And it has this disgraceful habit. It works. You are special, anyway. Kai -- Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com

Re: Debian maintainers online? 3.3.0 availability Q

2010-01-27 Thread Toni Mueller
Hi, On Wed, 27.01.2010 at 10:35:20 +0200, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > Will the new 3.3 be announced for Lenny (possibly via backports) or do I > need to use CPAN? you could probably file a wishlist bug against spamassassin, and/or prod someone to do it? http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting Kin

Re: AWL structure for 3.3.0?

2010-01-27 Thread Jari Fredriksson
On 27.1.2010 10:43, Henrik K wrote: > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:38:38AM +0200, Jari Fredriksson wrote: >> >> I'm trying to install it via CPAN or debian deb, so I do not have the >> sql-readme available. >> >> The AWL format changed, can someone post the MySQL desc output please? > > http://svn.a

Re: AWL structure for 3.3.0?

2010-01-27 Thread Henrik K
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 10:38:38AM +0200, Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > I'm trying to install it via CPAN or debian deb, so I do not have the > sql-readme available. > > The AWL format changed, can someone post the MySQL desc output please? http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/spamassassin/branches/3.3

AWL structure for 3.3.0?

2010-01-27 Thread Jari Fredriksson
I'm trying to install it via CPAN or debian deb, so I do not have the sql-readme available. The AWL format changed, can someone post the MySQL desc output please? -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ That secret you've been guarding, isn't. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Debian maintainers online? 3.3.0 availability Q

2010-01-27 Thread Jari Fredriksson
Will the new 3.3 be announced for Lenny (possibly via backports) or do I need to use CPAN? Thanks for info. -- http://www.iki.fi/jarif/ That secret you've been guarding, isn't. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature