Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Martin Gregorie wrote: >On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 17:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: > >Slightly off-topic interjection, though it may help other fetchmail >users. > >> What can I use to replace fetchmail with then? > >getmail > >> Fetchmail has such an option according to the

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:39:38 -0600 LuKreme wrote: > On 20-Oct-2009, at 17:30, Evan Platt wrote: > > A ISP would not send mail just because my mx is named > > something.dyndns.org ? > > More likely because your IP is in the PBL or because your rDNS fails > to match your hostname. That's a reas

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, LuKreme wrote: On 20-Oct-2009, at 17:30, Evan Platt wrote: A ISP would not send mail just because my mx is named something.dyndns.org? More likely because your IP is in the PBL or because your rDNS fails to match your hostname. I don't think _anybody_ checks a domain's

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Oct-2009, at 17:30, Evan Platt wrote: A ISP would not send mail just because my mx is named something.dyndns.org ? More likely because your IP is in the PBL or because your rDNS fails to match your hostname. -- 'You know me,' said Rincewind. 'Just when I'm getting a grip on somethin

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Evan Platt
At 04:25 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: Because many mail servers will not talk to you directly on a dynamic IP and will not accept outbound mail from you on a dynamic IP. Also, if your connection goes down, or you reboot your machine, having someone acting as backup for you is useful. (well, ok,

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Oct-2009, at 17:03, Evan Platt wrote: At 03:58 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: Domains cost about $10 a year. Static IP addresses depend on your ISP. Some are cheap, some are not, and some won't do it at all. However, you do not have to have a static IP. You can use a service like DynDNS.org

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Evan Platt
At 03:58 PM 10/20/2009, you wrote: Domains cost about $10 a year. Static IP addresses depend on your ISP. Some are cheap, some are not, and some won't do it at all. However, you do not have to have a static IP. You can use a service like DynDNS.org , which I think is about $20/year (they have fr

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread LuKreme
On 20-Oct-2009, at 15:53, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: Sure you can, register your own domain name, get a static IP address, setup your own mailserver. Lots of people do. At how much annual cost for that, Domains cost about $10 a year. Static IP ad

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 17:53 -0400, Gene Heskett wrote: Slightly off-topic interjection, though it may help other fetchmail users. > What can I use to replace fetchmail with then? > getmail > Fetchmail has such an option according to the comments in .fetchmailrc, but > the man page barely mentio

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: >> On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >>> Gene Heskett wrote: >> >> [...] >> >>> Since your not the recipient mailserver, (your upstream server is) and >>> I presume that your upstream is NOT running SA or doi

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 11:57:50 -0700 Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > Now do you see why people don't use fetchmail, and why it's so > important to 550 stuff that is sent from blacklisted servers, > and to use blacklists? That doesn't mean you need to run your own mail server. The world and his wife use

Re: Score?

2009-10-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 16:49 +0200, klop...@gmx.de wrote: > My predecessor said that emails with score > 6 but < 10 as spam > characterized. > emails with an score > 10 are deleted directly That'd be MailScanner configuration, I assume. > How can I adjust the score that it matches this rule > http

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 October 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: >Gene Heskett wrote: [...] >Since your not the recipient mailserver, (your upstream server is) and >I presume that your upstream is NOT running SA or doing any filtering >(otherwise you are effectively wearing 2 condoms, on on top of the >other, a

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Luis campo wrote: I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail box users, who might that be? what would be the problem that keeps coming in much spam our users, and that he could do to catch any mail that has no distinction as a public issue that i

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Ted Mittelstaedt
Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 19 October 2009, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: amadis wrote: I usually think of myself as pretty capable with a computer but Spamassassin and it's website have made me think twice. I took me 20 minutes just to figure out where this forum was. I feel like Apache is trying

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
20.10.2009 18:43, RW kirjoitti: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:12:21 +0300 > Jari Fredriksson wrote: > >> >> >> 20.10.2009 17:27, RW kirjoitti: >>> On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:38:14 +0300 >>> Jari Fredriksson wrote: >>> I have tried to compile spamd for cygwin, but could not make it. I would ha

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 18:12:21 +0300 Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > > 20.10.2009 17:27, RW kirjoitti: > > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:38:14 +0300 > > Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > > >> I have tried to compile spamd for cygwin, > >> but could not make it. I would have used it as one spamd instance > >> in

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
20.10.2009 17:44, McDonald, Dan kirjoitti: >> whitelist_from *...@enerquimica.com > > whitelist_from should generally be avoided. find out if these senders > have published an spf record, or use DKIM signing, then use > whitelist_from_spf or whitelist_from_dkim instead of whitelist_from > IMO

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:23 +, Luis campo wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail > box users, who might that be? Guys, don't waste your breathe. Looks familiar? http://markmail.org/thread/koiqiu7ijyso7rbn Luis Campo and Jose Luis Marin

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
20.10.2009 17:27, RW kirjoitti: > On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:38:14 +0300 > Jari Fredriksson wrote: > >> I have tried to compile spamd for cygwin, >> but could not make it. I would have used it as one spamd instance in >> my LAN in addition to the working Linux ones, > > spamd is perl, it's spamc

Score?

2009-10-20 Thread klopp76
Hello, I use Cenots 5 with Postfix and SpamAssassin version 3.2.5 with clamav In the directory /etc/MailScanner I have a spam.assassin.prefs.conf file. I use also this list http://zmi.at/x/70_zmi_german.cf My predecessor said that emails with score > 6 but < 10 as spam characterized.

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread McDonald, Dan
On Tue, 2009-10-20 at 14:23 +, Luis campo wrote: > Dear Sirs, > > I have the problem that many SPAM emails being filtered to the mail > box users, who might that be? > > what would be the problem that keeps coming in much spam our users, > and that he could do to catch any mail that has no

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Lucio Chiappetti
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: It is written for, and targeted at admins. SA is not a GUI application aiming for users. It is not even intended to be run on a client machine (even though it works), but a server. Thanks God it's not a GUI. About users ... ...well, when at our

Re: Problems with high spam

2009-10-20 Thread Bowie Bailey
Luis campo wrote: > * > skip_rbl_checks 1 > * RBL checks are quite useful. Why are you skipping them? > *#Con esto evalua cada mensaje, se requiere un 5.0 para marcarlo como > spam > required_hits 3 > * Spamassassin is designed to score spam at 5 points. If you lower this score, you are riski

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread RW
On Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:38:14 +0300 Jari Fredriksson wrote: > > SpamAssassin *is* extremely hard to get up and running, when one is > using a Windows workstation without perl. Even with perl it is hard, > as the spamd can not be put up with anything there is. I think even > cygwin does not help

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Robert Schetterer
amadis schrieb: > I usually think of myself as pretty capable with a computer but Spamassassin > and it's website have made me think twice. I took me 20 minutes just to > figure out where this forum was. I feel like Apache is trying to weed out > dunderheads like me from using their product. I swea

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread Jari Fredriksson
20.10.2009 16:25, jp kirjoitti: As an admin with two years of CS education... I think Spamassassin is one of the easiest programs to get, install, etc.. The documentation on it's tests is great. There's no voodoo like many anti-spam products. Stopping spam is not simple, and there are no illus

Re: Pulling my hair out

2009-10-20 Thread jp
As an admin with two years of CS education... I think Spamassassin is one of the easiest programs to get, install, etc.. The documentation on it's tests is great. There's no voodoo like many anti-spam products. Stopping spam is not simple, and there are no illusions otherwise. SA doesn't make i