Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 7/1/2009 8:50 AM, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > Oh, and look: dnsbl.sorbs.net So it seems that the demise of sorbs will add latency if their servers stop answering... See "Update: 25th June 2009 " http://www.au.sorbs.net/

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 08:26 +0200, Benny Pedersen wrote: > On Wed, July 1, 2009 07:44, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > In particular > > # Enable or disable network checks > > skip_rbl_checks 0 > > 0 = off 1 = on > > wroung > > 0 = use rbl > 1 = skib rbl test > Indeed I was "WROUNG";

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread LuKreme
On 30-Jun-2009, at 19:38, Karsten Bräckelmann wrote: Yes, that *might* result in images being loaded off the net auto- matically, depending on your MUA settings. Hence the "safe". But it really makes reviewing harder, having the user scroll and klick each single spam. Erm.. I don't understand h

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 07:44, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > In particular > # Enable or disable network checks > skip_rbl_checks 0 > 0 = off 1 = on wroung 0 = use rbl 1 = skib rbl test -- xpoint

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread rich...@buzzhost.co.uk
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:15 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on > > your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? > > In Debian, the network related scans are activated an

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 18:36 -0600, LuKreme wrote: > On 30-Jun-2009, at 14:57, John Horne wrote: > > I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our > > 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: > > Raising the required score is clearly a mistake. Setting report safe

Re: www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread LuKreme
On 29-Jun-2009, at 10:53, Kevin Parris wrote: It is folly to underestimate the stupidity and/or gullibility of humans. Just because the link "won't work" as-is in the message does NOT mean people out there won't retype it, corrected, into their browser address box. It is my opinion that if

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread LuKreme
On 30-Jun-2009, at 14:57, John Horne wrote: I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: Raising the required score is clearly a mistake. Setting report safe to 0 is generally user-hostile. Setting it to one is the best

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
> > Both of you. ;) > > Mea culpa. I _never_ think of header ALL rules. See my RATWARE_OUTLOOK rule. ;) Reminds me of an important bit I meant to add, but forgot. It's pretty important to properly anchor matches and limit wildcard matching with multi-line RE's -- otherwise they can easily bog do

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:15:56 +0200 Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not > > work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? > > In Debian, the network related scans are activated and

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Karsten Br?ckelmann wrote: On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 16:50 -0700, John Hardin wrote: On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: From: "Compare and Cover Life" X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 01:26 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: > > >X-spam-report: Score=-6.9 > > > tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham > > > > That is not a standard SA header. Actually, there's quite a lot fishy > > about that. > > > > First of all, SA is incapable of add

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 16:50 -0700, John Hardin wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: > > > From: "Compare and Cover Life" > > > X-Mailer: webguide103.com > > > How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? > > > > impossible without a pluging Meep. Wrong! > ...unless

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 00:23 +0100, Mike Cardwell wrote: > I've started seeing spam email containing an X-Mailer header which is > the domain name of the From header. Eg: > > From: "Compare and Cover Life" > X-Mailer: webguide103.com The *first* question should be, how are these scoring generall

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Benny Pedersen wrote: On Wed, July 1, 2009 01:23, Mike Cardwell wrote: From: "Compare and Cover Life" X-Mailer: webguide103.com > How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging ...unless you just do a loose X-Mailer-looks-like

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Wed, 1 Jul 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why ZE

Re: X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Wed, July 1, 2009 01:23, Mike Cardwell wrote: > From: "Compare and Cover Life" > X-Mailer: webguide103.com > How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? impossible without a pluging, would be faster to reject sender in mta -- xpoint

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Mark Martinec
> >X-spam-report: Score=-6.9 > > tests=BAYES_00,DCC_CHECK,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI autolearn=ham > > That is not a standard SA header. Actually, there's quite a lot fishy > about that. > > First of all, SA is incapable of adding it -- all SA generated headers > start with X-Spam- (note the uppe

X-Mailer: domain

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
Hi, I've started seeing spam email containing an X-Mailer header which is the domain name of the From header. Eg: From: "Compare and Cover Life" X-Mailer: webguide103.com How would I construct a spamassassin rule to check for this? -- Mike Cardwell - IT Consultant and LAMP developer Cardwel

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 14:08:33, schrieb John Hardin: > If zen worked to catch the message in procmail, how does it not work on > your MTA? Or did we misinterpret your original post? In Debian, the network related scans are activated and I do not know, why ZEN is never executed. If you know more abo

Re: SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 21:57 +0100, John Horne wrote: > I am currently reconfiguring SA, and have set report_safe to 0. Our > 'required' score is 8, and I have also configured: > > clear_report_template > report "Score=_SCORE_ tests=_TESTS_ autolearn=_AUTOLEARN_" The report option does n

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS server

SA report header added to ham mail

2009-06-30 Thread John Horne
Hello, Using SA 3.2.5 I read in the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf man page that: report_safe ( 0 | 1 | 2 ) (default: 1) ... If this option is set to 0, incoming spam is only modified by adding some "X-Spam-" headers and no changes will be made to the body. In

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 07:06:37, schrieb rich...@buzzhost.co.uk: > Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are you > not > using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? Because it does not work... My Mailserver does tonns (the syslog of my DNS server is full of it) of DNS checks but ZEN does

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 04:33:57, schrieb Benny Pedersen: > what ip ? [michelle.konz...@michelle1:~] host 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org 224.118.146.174.zen.spamhaus.org has address 127.0.0.11 Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator Tamay Dogan Network

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread RW
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009 09:10:36 +0200 Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > On 30.06.09 07:06, rich...@buzzhost.co.uk wrote: > > Are you saying that ZEN caught it after SA processed it? Why are > > you not using ZEN in SA or at the SMTP stage? > > She apparently does not have control over 69.43.203.202,

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 13:50:09, schrieb Yet Another Ninja: > See RegistrarBoundaries.pm in SA source and > http://www.rulesemporium.com/rules/90_2tld.cf I know this list, but these are only domains, where you can get a 3rd Level Domain like on as http://tamay.dogan.free.fr/ which was create

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, John Wilcock wrote: Le 30/06/2009 17:16, John Hardin a écrit : > ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... > (-> www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused wit

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Mike Cardwell
John Wilcock wrote: ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... (-> www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused with English words, never mind other languages. Do you really want Spam

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Wilcock
Le 30/06/2009 17:16, John Hardin a écrit : ... looking at the www peter got an impression of ... (-> www.peter.got?) TLDs are limited and prevent FPs of that particular nature. Sure, but there are lots of ccTLDs that could be confused with English words, never mind other languages. D

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread John Hardin
On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Jan P. Kessler wrote: Martin Gregorie schrieb: ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. Maybe I was not clear: The last one is NOT an url. D

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
> So you want obfuscated urls to be recognised as urls but not treated as > urls? > Of course. Its spam. > If this is just for a few own pcre body rules, I'd suggest you to > handle those de-obfuscations in your rules. > Guess what I'm doing. > You can also publish your own plugin, if you think t

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Martin Gregorie schrieb: > What makes you think I'm using URI tests or that any of these would be > recognised as a URI? My tests are simple body tests with {1,n} limits on > repetitions to keep things under control. > So you want obfuscated urls to be recognised as urls but not treated as urls

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 13:14 +0200, Jan P. Kessler wrote: > Martin Gregorie schrieb: > >> ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... > >> > >> and > >> > >> ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... > >> > > Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen > > legitimate mai

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Yet Another Ninja
On 6/30/2009 1:18 PM, Michelle Konzack wrote: Am 2009-06-30 12:30:14, schrieb Jan P. Kessler: How would you distinguish between ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... and ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... to prevent SA trying to look up www.he.saw? Is SAW a valid TO

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Michelle Konzack wrote: > Is SAW a valid TOPLEVEL domain? > > SA could use a list of valid TLD's. > Ok, let's change that (do not forget that there's more than .com) the www seems to become the primary source of information these days (->www.seems.to?) And I think we agree, that it wo

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 11:58:20, schrieb Martin Gregorie: > > http:// meds spammer org > > > That should be scored positive too, for the same reason. And in my org this should no happen... is a valid domain FOR SALE. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrato

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-06-30 12:30:14, schrieb Jan P. Kessler: > How would you distinguish between > > ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... > > and > > ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... > > to prevent SA trying to look up www.he.saw? Is SAW a valid TOPLEVEL domain? SA could use a l

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Martin Gregorie schrieb: >> ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... >> >> and >> >> ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... >> > Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen > legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. Maybe I was not clear: The last one is

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Gregorie
> ... go to WWW EVIL ORG for new meds ... > > and > > ... digging through the WWW HE SAW this link ... > Both IMO should be caught and given a positive score. I've never seen legitimate mail containing URLs written this way. > And what about URLs that don't start with WWW, like > >

Re: [NEW SPAM FLOOD] www.shopXX.net

2009-06-30 Thread Jan P. Kessler
Jason Haar schrieb: > All this talk about trying to catch urls that contain spaces/etc got me > thinking: why isn't this a standard SA feature? i.e if SA sees > "www(whitespace|comma|period)-combo(therest)", then rewrite it as the > url and process. How would you distinguish between ... go to

Re: RulesDuJour

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Anshul Chauhan wrote: > > we have to copy KAM.cf to /usr/share/spamassassin only for its > > integration with spamassassin or something else is to done > > > > I'm using spamassassin-3.2.5-1.el4.rf on Centos4.7 On 30.06.09 02:11, Matt Kettler wrote: > Any add-on rules should be placed in the sa

Re: New type of spam... (very curious)

2009-06-30 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> On Tue, 2009-06-30 at 00:46 +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > > For some seconds I have goten this spam, which has passed my spmassassin > > but was hit by a seperated ZEN rule in procmail: > > > > > > Return-Path: soria.h.steven...@gmail.com > > X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.2.3 (2007-