Re: [sa-list] Re: Image spam and failing rule

2009-04-26 Thread Henrik K
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:11:10PM -0400, Dan Mahoney, System Admin wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, John Hardin wrote: > >> On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Gary Forrest wrote: >> >>> We are receiving the same image spam many times, random text within >>> the body. >> >> FuzzyOCR. It seems Spammers are trying i

Re: A rant about FUZZY_OCR

2009-04-26 Thread Henrik K
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 02:37:06PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 05:14:21PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote: > >> I wouldn't trust FUZZY_OCR with anything. 12 points is *WAY* too high > >> for any single thing. I had to disable this plugin a year or three > >> ago because it assigned

Code Rot?

2009-04-26 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
Hey all, While there's a decent amount of spamassassin list traffic to imply otherwise, is the SA project falling dormant? the sare-rules claim they won't be updated due to lives, wives, and hockey. the fuzzyOCR project claims the only thing that works with 3.2 is the SVN version, and on t

DNSEval Plugin

2009-04-26 Thread Chris
Is there a way to test this to ensure it's working/configured correctly or something to look for in the content analysis details? Thanks Chris -- KeyID 0xE372A7DA98E6705C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: SMTP-callbacks (aka Sender Verify, Sender callouts, SAV)

2009-04-26 Thread John Rudd
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 14:01, Adam Katz wrote: > Charles Gregory wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Adam Katz wrote: > > The more pressing point (since fixing the one you mentioned is pretty > simple) is that when you use a call to a sender's MX record and either > use SMTP's VRFY command or pretend

Re: sought.rules.yerp.org site down?

2009-04-26 Thread Justin Mason
should be back now. sorry about this, server trouble :( On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 16:22, Ned Slider wrote: > Bill Landry wrote: >> >> Bill Landry wrote: >>> >>> I do a "sought" rules update once per day using sa-update, but today I >>> am seeing: >>> >>>   http: request failed: 500 read timeout: 5

Re: SMTP-callbacks (aka Sender Verify, Sender callouts, SAV)

2009-04-26 Thread Adam Katz
Charles Gregory wrote: > On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, Adam Katz wrote: >> I read recently that that's a Bad Thing (and I'm leaning on agreeing): >> http://www.backscatterer.org/?target=sendercallouts > > The most compelling argument on that site is one that almost slips by > un-noticed. A spammer could ve

Re: Phishing

2009-04-26 Thread Ken A.
Neil Schwartzman wrote: On 24/04/09 11:44 PM, it was written: Most people do not fall for it, but the dumbest ones do fall for it. This is not a question of intellect, it is a question of the verisimilitude of the messaging. both might probably more true than false. In fact I could think of

Re: [sa-list] Re: Image spam and failing rule

2009-04-26 Thread Dan Mahoney, System Admin
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, John Hardin wrote: On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Gary Forrest wrote: We are receiving the same image spam many times, random text within the body. FuzzyOCR. It seems Spammers are trying image spam again, after giving up on it for a year or so. Is there a version of FuzzyOCR th

Re: Secondary benefit from greylisting's delay

2009-04-26 Thread Rik
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 15:06 -0400, Adam Katz wrote: > John Hardin wrote: > >>> Igor, you might also want to implement greylisting, to give the URIBLs a > >>> chance to list URIs that appear in these messages. > > Ned Slider responded: > >> Interesting concept - do you have any data to support th

Secondary benefit from greylisting's delay

2009-04-26 Thread Adam Katz
John Hardin wrote: >>> Igor, you might also want to implement greylisting, to give the URIBLs a >>> chance to list URIs that appear in these messages. Ned Slider responded: >> Interesting concept - do you have any data to support the hypothesis? John Hardin shrugged: > Nope. I have anecdotal ev

A rant about FUZZY_OCR

2009-04-26 Thread Adam Katz
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 05:14:21PM -0400, Adam Katz wrote: >> I wouldn't trust FUZZY_OCR with anything. 12 points is *WAY* too high >> for any single thing. I had to disable this plugin a year or three >> ago because it assigned 20+ points to legit screenshots in ham (and >> that was /after/ I

Re: Image spam and failing rule

2009-04-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
It's already been mentioned, but mimeheader is the right way to look at the headers of MIME parts. The rule of thumb is "if you are using 'full' you're probably doing it wrong". :) On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Charles Gregory wrote: > On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Gary Forrest wrote: >> >> We are r

Re: updates complete, exiting with code 4

2009-04-26 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-04-26 at 11:37 -0500, Chris wrote: > Does this have something to do with not being able to connect to > Justin's site for sought updates? Yes. And no. ;) The server actually is available currently. The advertised rule-set version isn't. Anyway, that's the reason for the exit code 4.

updates complete, exiting with code 4

2009-04-26 Thread Chris
Does this have something to do with not being able to connect to Justin's site for sought updates? -- KeyID 0xE372A7DA98E6705C signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part

Re: Image spam and failing rule

2009-04-26 Thread Charles Gregory
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Gary Forrest wrote: We are receiving the same image spam many times, random text within the body. The only common thing is a image attachment, with the filename in the following format DSL1234.png I have made the following ' RAWBODY ' rule /dsl[0-9]{4}\.png/i You need to

Re: Why is the advertising for certain "berry" not caught

2009-04-26 Thread Bill Landry
Igor Chudov wrote: > OK, dumb question, how would I implement greylisting (I have Ubuntu) That depends on what MTA you are using. Most greylisting is performed by milters or, if using Postfix, policy delegation. Check your MTA's web site, they will usually advise you on how to implement greylis

Re: Why is the advertising for certain "berry" not caught

2009-04-26 Thread Igor Chudov
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:06:47PM +0100, Ned Slider wrote: > John Hardin wrote: >> On Fri, 24 Apr 2009, LuKreme wrote: >> >>> On 24-Apr-2009, at 10:41, Igor Chudov wrote: >>> I get a shipload of spams like this one: http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/spam007.txt >>> >>> Scores very high her

Re: sought.rules.yerp.org site down?

2009-04-26 Thread Ned Slider
Bill Landry wrote: Bill Landry wrote: I do a "sought" rules update once per day using sa-update, but today I am seeing: http: request failed: 500 read timeout: 500 read timeout channel: could not find working mirror, channel failed I cannot access the site via web browser either. Just c

Re: sought.rules.yerp.org site down?

2009-04-26 Thread Bill Landry
Bill Landry wrote: > I do a "sought" rules update once per day using sa-update, but today I > am seeing: > >http: request failed: 500 read timeout: 500 read timeout >channel: could not find working mirror, channel failed > > I cannot access the site via web browser either. Just curious i

Re: Phishing

2009-04-26 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sat, April 25, 2009 05:44, Igor Chudov wrote: > DKIM will not work, as this is purely a social engineering attack. will postmas...@example.com work ? if the hacked accounts was signed with dkim remote will know what domain to contact about it, but if ab...@example.com or postmaster dont akt i

Re: Another bad kind of spams, for Pfizer knockoffs with image

2009-04-26 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Fri, April 24, 2009 22:56, John Hardin wrote: > I do that check using milter-regex. A sample config file is at > http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/antispam/ - you'd have to edit it to match > your needs for domain names and local MTA IP addresses. tempfail "helo and ip does not resolve" helo /\./

Re: Phishing

2009-04-26 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On 24/04/09 11:44 PM, it was written: > Most people do not fall for it, but the dumbest ones do fall for it. This is not a question of intellect, it is a question of the verisimilitude of the messaging. -- Neil Schwartzman Director, Accreditation Security & Standards Certified | Safelist Return

Re: DATE_IN_FUTURE

2009-04-26 Thread Rik
On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 22:58 +0200, Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote: > > On Sat, 2009-04-25 at 17:36 +0200, Mark Martinec wrote: > > > It would save us the guesswork if you could provide the header section > > > of the troublesome message. As Theo pointed out, there may be problem > > > in Received he