Re: Understanding Trusted and Internal

2009-03-01 Thread Henrik K
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 05:16:37AM +, RW wrote: > > As I understand it the difference between trusted and internal is that > PBL/DUL checks are done at the internal/external boundary so > they don't FP on mail submission into the trusted network. Right. > Firstly, doesn't that imply that re

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On 01/03/09 7:55 PM, "Michael Scheidell" wrote: > Last time I tried via your web site, I had a salesperson call me > trying to convince me I should pay return path to 'bless' my marketing > emails. BTW: I trust your pointed out the error of his ways. If this ever happens again, get the person

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On 01/03/09 7:55 PM, "Michael Scheidell" wrote: > Good first step, how, about an RFC complaint abuse@ address? So you can complain about any errant returnpath.net emails? That has always been in place. It would be inappropriate to complain about certified client emails to our role accounts, ergo

Understanding Trusted and Internal

2009-03-01 Thread RW
As I understand it the difference between trusted and internal is that PBL/DUL checks are done at the internal/external boundary so they don't FP on mail submission into the trusted network. Firstly, doesn't that imply that relaying services like Spamgourmet could be treated as internal and not

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Neil Schwartzman
On 01/03/09 7:58 PM, "Michael Scheidell" wrote: > And why is this original email supposed to be a high priority? Must be a > marketing person posting it. Hah. Marketing. Yeah right. That's what it says in my sig. Oh, no wait ... I believe the reason the email was highest priority is because I r

Re: Individual SURBL lists to be shut down on public nameservers February 28, 2009. Use multi.

2009-03-01 Thread Jeff Chan
On 3/1/09, Jeff Chan wrote: > For historical reasons, the SURBL public nameservers were serving > individual lists ab, sc, ob and ws in addition to multi. However > these individual lists have all been deprecated in favor of multi for > several years since multi contains all lists. Traffic fo

Re: "German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-03-01 13:51:18, schrieb John Lundin: > Hi, Jake. How much ham do you receive with a British origin, a German > domain and containing Russian URLs? ROTFLOL Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack -- Linux-User #280138 with the Linux Counter, http://counter.li.org/ ##

Re: "German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-03-01 09:44:00, schrieb Jake Maul: > http://pastebin.com/m58b01a0b Score 7.6 > http://pastebin.com/me13959a Score 7.8 You must do something wrong. Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening Michelle Konzack Systemadministrator 24V Electronic Engineer Tamay Dogan Network

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-03-01 13:04:49, schrieb LuKreme: > unless you are suggesting that they are MANUALLY logging into the > webmail to then send 1 billion spams, yes it will. Break them out, by allowing to send only 10 messages per hour from the Webinterface... This is what I do here and it works quiet we

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-03-01 15:31:45, schrieb giga328: > > Nice idea. We were considering this for a long time because our mail server > has built in support for email throttling. Luckily for me, configuring it > will be done by my colleague as it is his part of the job. Tomorrow morning > I will happily inform

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 20:55 -0500, Michael Scheidell wrote: > > We have created an entry on the Spamassassin wiki > > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ReportingSpam > > Thanks.. Last time I tried via your web site, I had a salesperson call me > trying to convince me I should pay return path to

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Michael Scheidell
> We have created an entry on the Spamassassin wiki > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ReportingSpam Sorry, but these people have no clue: RFC's? What the heck. Received: from 38.109.196.48 ([38.109.196.48]) by rpnyex01.rpcorp.local ([192.168.1.16]) with Microsoft Exchange Server HTTP-DAV ;

Re: ReturnPath, Habeas, BondedSender

2009-03-01 Thread Michael Scheidell
> We have created an entry on the Spamassassin wiki > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/ReportingSpam Thanks.. Last time I tried via your web site, I had a salesperson call me trying to convince me I should pay return path to 'bless' my marketing emails. Good first step, how, about an RFC compl

Re: Hopfield nerons for porn image detection

2009-03-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Karsten Bräckelmann wrote on Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:35:35 +0100: > Please excuse my ignorance -- how fast is that? Also, there's quite a > difference between identifying an "A" symbol and porn, isn't it? Depends on how well the bodies form the alphabet ;-) Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get

Re: Hopfield nerons for porn image detection

2009-03-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 17:19 -0600, Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz wrote: > HI all, > > While studing a subject of hopfield for my master. Reading, I got that a > Hopfield network is able to detect patterns even if inputs have noise. So > for > example many people could write A capital in many ways

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread giga328
Nice idea. We were considering this for a long time because our mail server has built in support for email throttling. Luckily for me, configuring it will be done by my colleague as it is his part of the job. Tomorrow morning I will happily inform him that throttling is needed and suggested by som

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread giga328
Thank you Joseph, I'm glad that it is social engineering and not some virus problem. I will arrange that all users are informed that they will never be asked for their passwords by email and we will see if in some time number of issues will fall down. Giga Joseph Brennan wrote: > > > If it's

Hopfield nerons for porn image detection

2009-03-01 Thread Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz
HI all, While studing a subject of hopfield for my master. Reading, I got that a Hopfield network is able to detect patterns even if inputs have noise. So for example many people could write A capital in many ways and hopfield network will detect A symbol. What do you think on using this to

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread giga328
Hi Greg, I looked at Received headers and unfortunately, Received headers added by our webmail are not standard ones. Except for the proxy.IP in the following example, all IPs and all FQDNs are from our servers. Here is the (ugly) example: Received: from our.domain ([our.webmail.private.IP]) by

Re: DKIM signature in header (or not...)

2009-03-01 Thread Noel Jones
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM, Seba Mueld wrote: > > I'm using spamassassin (3.2.5) with Postfix and DKIM-Filter 2.6.0. > > Spamassassin runs as content filter (spamd/spamc) like this: > http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/IntegratedSpamdInPostfix > > In local.cf I've set the "report safe = 1".

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread LuKreme
On 1-Mar-2009, at 12:50, Joseph Brennan wrote: If your users are consistently getting their passwords stolen, then your users are idiots and you will need to do something like add a captcha to the webmail login page. If it's the Nigerian gangs that have been attacking university web mai

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Joseph Brennan
If your users are consistently getting their passwords stolen, then your users are idiots and you will need to do something like add a captcha to the webmail login page. If it's the Nigerian gangs that have been attacking university web mail for about 12 months now, they are phishing your

Re: Spamassassin Upgrade

2009-03-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 16:33 +, James Wilkinson wrote: > An anonymous Nable user wrote: > > I just upgraded my SA to 3.2.5 and now when I look in my /etc/init.d I do > > not > > see spamassassin listed anywhere in there. > > Which OS? How did you upgrade – cpan? yum? apt-get? From where did y

Re: "German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread hamann . w
>> >> Howdy, >> >> Lately I've been getting a lot of spam like this: >> >> http://pastebin.com/m58b01a0b >> http://pastebin.com/me13959a >> >> The domain changes, but it's virtually always in the .de TLD >> ("somedomain.de"). RelayCountries has this to say about that message >> (I'm in the US,

Re: "German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread John Lundin
On Sun, Mar 01, 2009 at 09:44:00AM -0700, Jake Maul wrote: > The domain changes, but it's virtually always in the .de TLD > [31067] dbg: metadata: X-Relay-Countries: GB > > They don't seem to trigger any remote tests at all DNSBLs, URIBLs, > Pyzor, Razor, or Botnet. The only local tests trigge

Re: "German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 09:44 -0700, Jake Maul wrote: > Howdy, > > Lately I've been getting a lot of spam like this: > > http://pastebin.com/m58b01a0b > http://pastebin.com/me13959a > > The domain changes, but it's virtually always in the .de TLD > ("somedomain.de"). RelayCountries has this to say

Re: how to manage AWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Karsten Bräckelmann
On Sun, 2009-03-01 at 07:25 -0800, Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Hi, > > I have some messages that are reporting AWL score but I'd like to > remove that sender from the AWL. How can I do that? See 'man spamassassin-run'. There's --remove-addr-from-whitelist=addr for this, and some other options for

Re: does SBL/XBL have a plugin?

2009-03-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > > Are SBL/XBL tests automatically enabled or is there a plugin I need to > > enable? On 01.03.09 16:36, James Wilkinson wrote: > SBL/XBL are tested as part of the SpamAssassin ZEN list for 3.2.x if you > have network tests enabled. and it is advised to stop using them

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread LuKreme
On 1-Mar-2009, at 06:47, giga328 wrote: Spammers are stilling passwords from some of our users by using viruses (passwords are stolen, not guessed or brute force cracked). Spammers have application which is able to authenticate to our webmail interface and post email :) If your users are con

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Matthias Leisi
Michelle Konzack schrieb: > OK, but I have never untrusted <*.debian.org> This is not about "untrusting". It's about telling SpamAssassin which relays are trustworthy to begin with. Adding these hints greatly improves the accuracy of SpamAssassin. > Is there a way, to les spamassassin look re

Re: spam count going down?

2009-03-01 Thread Matus UHLAR - fantomas
> Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:47:29 +0100: > > > Unless there was another issue than McColo shutdown, it was since November > > 11, 2008. On 01.03.09 12:31, Kai Schaetzl wrote: > That's another matter, it already increased early December to normal. This > new selective dro

"German" spam not hitting any DNSBLs, almost no rules

2009-03-01 Thread Jake Maul
Howdy, Lately I've been getting a lot of spam like this: http://pastebin.com/m58b01a0b http://pastebin.com/me13959a The domain changes, but it's virtually always in the .de TLD ("somedomain.de"). RelayCountries has this to say about that message (I'm in the US, btw): [31067] dbg: metadata: X-Rel

Re: does SBL/XBL have a plugin?

2009-03-01 Thread James Wilkinson
Ricardo Kleemann wrote: > Are SBL/XBL tests automatically enabled or is there a plugin I need to enable? SBL/XBL are tested as part of the SpamAssassin ZEN list for 3.2.x if you have network tests enabled. Hope this helps, James. -- E-mail: james@ | “Sir, they’ve taken Mr. Rimmer!” apr

Re: Spamassassin Upgrade

2009-03-01 Thread James Wilkinson
Kban35 wrote: > I just upgraded my SA to 3.2.5 and now when I look in my /etc/init.d I do not > see spamassassin listed anywhere in there. Which OS? How did you upgrade – cpan? yum? apt-get? From where did you get 3.2.5? Thanks, James. -- E-mail: james@ | “Drums must never stop. Very bad i

does SBL/XBL have a plugin?

2009-03-01 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Are SBL/XBL tests automatically enabled or is there a plugin I need to enable? Thanks Ricardo

how to manage AWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I have some messages that are reporting AWL score but I'd like to remove that sender from the AWL. How can I do that? Thanks Ricardo

Spamassassin Upgrade

2009-03-01 Thread Kban35
I just upgraded my SA to 3.2.5 and now when I look in my /etc/init.d I do not see spamassassin listed anywhere in there. How can I go about stopping and starting SA? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Spamassassin-Upgrade-tp22273876p22273876.html Sent from the SpamAssassin -

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hello Benny, Am 2009-03-01 15:12:16, schrieb Benny Pedersen: > http://www.dnswl.org/ se the webpage first Already checked, but > can you make them into levels of NONE, LOW, MEDIUM, HI > > and then start with the LOW,MEDIUM,HI until all is listed where you > get spam from is changed to NONE, you

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, March 1, 2009 14:48, Michelle Konzack wrote: > Am 2009-02-27 22:36:24, schrieb rafa: >> Contacting dnswl.org can help all of us. They can downgrade those >> servers from low to none. > How should I do this? http://www.dnswl.org/ se the webpage first > In the meantime I have checked ALL s

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Greg Troxel
giga328 writes: > After posting email by webmail interface, message is routed to our outgoing > SMTP server. It is scanned by spamd from SpamAssassin but it get low score. > Low score is from tests ALL_TRUSTED and/or BAYES_xx and/or AWL. > I'm not sure if we can remove webmail IP address from tr

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-28 09:20:02, schrieb Matthias Leisi: > You should add the debian mailservers to your trust path > (trusted_networks/internal_networks depending on circumstances) so that > RBL checks are applied to the correct IP addresses. OK, but I have never untrusted <*.debian.org> Is there a way,

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Raymond Dijkxhoorn
Hi! We have some strong spam attacks done by combination of our webmail, viruses and open proxies. Situation is like this: Our outgoing SMTP server is open only for users from our IP addresses and is filtered for rest of the world. Our webmail interface is open to whole world as our users need

Re: Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, March 1, 2009 14:47, giga328 wrote: > We have some strong spam attacks done by combination of our webmail, > viruses and open proxies. do you just trust email senders if thay are loged in to not spam check it before leaving your network ? (rest skipped] -- http://localhost/ 100% uptime

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-28 02:22:32, schrieb Karsten Bräckelmann: > Uhm, wait -- let me re-phrase my hasty suggestion to report to dnswl.org > for removal. OK, gotten... > IP address 70.103.162.29 is listed at dnswl.org with the following > details: > Domain: debian.org; [...] > Maybe you should tell Debian

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-27 22:36:24, schrieb rafa: > Contacting dnswl.org can help all of us. They can downgrade those > servers from low to none. How should I do this? In the meantime I have checked ALL spams manualy from a bash script and it seems, there are more then 300 IP's listet on DNSWL. Should I f

Webmail spammers

2009-03-01 Thread giga328
Hi all, We have some strong spam attacks done by combination of our webmail, viruses and open proxies. Situation is like this: Our outgoing SMTP server is open only for users from our IP addresses and is filtered for rest of the world. Our webmail interface is open to whole world as our users ne

Re: How to disable DNSWL?

2009-03-01 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 2009-02-28 00:48:44, schrieb Martin Gregorie: > Have you tried editing > score RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW 0 > into /etc/mail.spamassassin/local.cf ? I have had it in ${HOME}/.spamassassin/local.cf (as written in the manpage) and it was not working. Since yesterday it is in ${HOME}/.spamassa

Re: spam count going down?

2009-03-01 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Matus UHLAR - fantomas wrote on Sun, 1 Mar 2009 01:47:29 +0100: > Unless there was another issue than McColo shutdown, it was since November > 11, 2008. That's another matter, it already increased early December to normal. This new selective drop started end of January from checking my graphs no

RE: not seeing any advantage to sa-learn?

2009-03-01 Thread Benny Pedersen
On Sun, March 1, 2009 07:11, Roger Marquis wrote: > Based on your post we are retesting AWL starting with a low > threshold (0.1). please clearify more, AWL is not a whitelist, imho if AWL makes problems adjust auto_whitelist_factor in AWL plugin default is 0.5 try 0.1 or 0.9 and see results fro